MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[pocketehs]

WEEEEEEEEEEE!

This is since I moved to 888, transitioned to 6m playing 6nl, and then moved back to stars and started playing 10nl there, 4-5 tables at a time, thats about 14bi's




Theres a downswing coming fo sho, but I think this proves I can beat micro 6m.... finally!!!

Gonna shot take 16nl with a few bi's at $560, prob start adding them in and will stop it if I drop to $500, currently at $527 so hopefully at the start of feb

Catching up on this thread and saw this. Unreal Peels way to go man.

Just had a 2.5k hands session and ended down only 2 BI. Kinda happy about it because Im getting more familiar with the level. Found a pretty big leak of mine today though. 3-betting light too often from the blinds to LP opens.

Noticed this when the same reg has position on me when I was in the blinds over a few tables. He had a F3Bet of like 80+ but he would just call IP then float the flop. Then I just noticed this was a pretty common trend among a lot of my tables. Basically vs fish I think I can get away with it more but vs regs its going to be harder to make it profitable.. thoughts?

Going to post some hands for everyone tomorrow

like the video idea btw. already made one! Whats the plan though? watch a youtube video of someones like once a week and then discuss it in a thread?

 

[Logan2]

Guys need Help.

Having issues right now with 6 max and is about volume. Been having good results both on 2nl/5nl but struggling to put any decent volume because find hard to play more than 6 tables on 6max were i could play 10-12 on FR meaning twice volume, so how to handle that?.

I mean, sure my graph looks great winning at 12bb/100 in a lol example but with so low volume my hourly should be higher on FR no?. having mixed feelings because i thought if want to get back to FR will be because losing on 6max which i´m not, but feel moving on slow motion loading hands, so not sure what to do???.

Only can think on load FR on peek times and 6max on out-peek times when FR is more dry and 6max still ton of games running, this way could increase some volume, any more ideas?
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[micromachine]

Don't worry about the volume imo Logan, if you can beat 6max at 5-10bb/100 playing 6 tables it wont take long at all to move up the levels.

On 6 tables of 6max you'll play as many hands/hour as at least 9 tables of FR anyway.

 

[micromachine]

Not sure whether to start my own thread or not

 

[Jackle43]

Don't worry about the volume imo Logan, if you can beat 6max at 5-10bb/100 playing 6 tables it wont take long at all to move up the levels.

On 6 tables of 6max you'll play as many hands/hour as at least 9 tables of FR anyway.

Yeah I agree with this^, If you keep crushing like that stakes will fly by.
On another note I simply just struggle with volume for online. Live I can play as long as I want but online after 2 hours I completely loose concentration on the game. How can I change this...any ideas???

And is a 7% 3 bet complete spew or should I keep it up??? It seems to be working as im winning 11bb/100 over 45k sample

 

[AlfieAA]

Guys need Help.

Having issues right now with 6 max and is about volume. Been having good results both on 2nl/5nl but struggling to put any decent volume because find hard to play more than 6 tables on 6max were i could play 10-12 on FR meaning twice volume, so how to handle that?.

I mean, sure my graph looks great winning at 12bb/100 in a lol example but with so low volume my hourly should be higher on FR no?. having mixed feelings because i thought if want to get back to FR will be because losing on 6max which i´m not, but feel moving on slow motion loading hands, so not sure what to do???.

Only can think on load FR on peek times and 6max on out-peek times when FR is more dry and 6max still ton of games running, this way could increase some volume, any more ideas?
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How many hands did you play at FR a day?....find that out and play the same at 6max...it might take you an extra hour or so...but you get about 25% more hands per hour at 6 max...try go to 7 tables....not much point in going back to FR, its so slow.

 

[micromachine]

Yeah I agree with this^, If you keep crushing like that stakes will fly by.
On another note I simply just struggle with volume for online. Live I can play as long as I want but online after 2 hours I completely loose concentration on the game. How can I change this...any ideas???

And is a 7% 3 bet complete spew or should I keep it up??? It seems to be working as im winning 11bb/100 over 45k sample

Probably because online is much faster and therefore more mentally demanding than live. IF you lose concentration after a couple of hours (I do too), then that's when you need to be taking a break.

7% 3b is cool.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Yeah I agree with this^, If you keep crushing like that stakes will fly by.
On another note I simply just struggle with volume for online. Live I can play as long as I want but online after 2 hours I completely loose concentration on the game. How can I change this...any ideas???

And is a 7% 3 bet complete spew or should I keep it up??? It seems to be working as im winning 11bb/100 over 45k sample

7% 3bet is not spew, My 3bet is probably higher than that as I love to 3bet regs who just insta fold everything but the nuts pre-flop.

 

[AlfieAA]

guys i need some help, ive just fired pokerstove up and im stuck on something.....how do you calculate a a vpip and pfr range 'for 2nl' but also include ATC's for steals on the CO,BTN and SB.....because basically i would be playing ever hand possible at some point, but i cant put them all in stove coz i would get 100% range lol....so what calculations do i need to make....thanks

 

[AlfieAA]

for anyone interested in keeping track of their BR management

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Bankroll-Management.php

 

[orangepeeleo]

guys i need some help, ive just fired pokerstove up and im stuck on something.....how do you calculate a a vpip and pfr range 'for 2nl' but also include ATC's for steals on the CO,BTN and SB.....because basically i would be playing ever hand possible at some point, but i cant put them all in stove coz i would get 100% range lol....so what calculations do i need to make....thanks

Just set yourself to a random hand, or an actual button steal range, because your not going to be playing ATC's from the BTN that often?? I'm not sure what your asking to be honest.

Quickly clicking buttons I came up with this for my rough button open range

22+,A2s+,K7s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54s,43s,32s,A7o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

You really dont need to be doing any of this at 2nl, ranges are soooo wide that trying to work on them and exploit ranges will just piss you off because they'll be turning up with random shit all the time.

Recognise when you have top pair ----> Bet until raised -------> do lots of b/f'ing on rivers ---------> profit

 

[Logan2]

Don't worry about the volume imo Logan, if you can beat 6max at 5-10bb/100 playing 6 tables it wont take long at all to move up the levels.

On 6 tables of 6max you'll play as many hands/hour as at least 9 tables of FR anyway.

Yeah I agree with this^, If you keep crushing like that stakes will fly by.
On another note I simply just struggle with volume for online. Live I can play as long as I want but online after 2 hours I completely loose concentration on the game. How can I change this...any ideas???

And is a 7% 3 bet complete spew or should I keep it up??? It seems to be working as im winning 11bb/100 over 45k sample

I guess you guys right, probably just need to play more.

About the 3b%, with your WR on that decent example mean don´t need to change anything right now. grats man.

On the volume issue, i find is best for me to take brakes, even if are only 5-10min to go to bathroom, change the music, get a snack or w/e, taking a break every 1-1.5hrs playing help me to get back and keep playing another set.

Not sure whether to start my own thread or not

I see you open a new one, gona look that now.

How many hands did you play at FR a day?....find that out and play the same at 6max...it might take you an extra hour or so...but you get about 25% more hands per hour at 6 max...try go to 7 tables....not much point in going back to FR, its so slow.

Agree.


On other things, how you guys do on the month, i wana see gyraphs

And, any goals on mind for Feb.?, i think need to set some goals for volume but probably more about time played than hands..

 

[pocketehs]

On other things, how you guys do on the month, i wana see gyraphs

And, any goals on mind for Feb.?, i think need to set some goals for volume but probably more about time played than hands..

Went on a pretty sick heater at 5NL but still working through 10NL

Can anyone send me the link to the 2+2 thread for selling Stars T$ please?

 

[Logan2]

Nice gyraph doc.

gona post my after last session on couple hours.

link for T$
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...l-w-t-here-291728/index1560.html#post36949144
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[pocketehs]

Thanks Logan.

Hands if interested...

 

[AlfieAA]

Just set yourself to a random hand, or an actual button steal range, because your not going to be playing ATC's from the BTN that often?? I'm not sure what your asking to be honest.

Quickly clicking buttons I came up with this for my rough button open range

22+,A2s+,K7s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54s,43s,32s,A7o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

You really dont need to be doing any of this at 2nl, ranges are soooo wide that trying to work on them and exploit ranges will just piss you off because they'll be turning up with random shit all the time.

Recognise when you have top pair ----> Bet until raised -------> do lots of b/f'ing on rivers ---------> profit

Thanks peels, what I mean is I would like to get my vpip to between 19-22 and I wondered if opening up (if unopened behind me) with steals on the CO,BTN and SB with ATC would affect my overall VPIP.....I know that I won't be stealing every hand as you can always count on some fish limping in which then makes steal attemps pointless as they will just call it etc.....so I was thinking I would come up with a range on stove for my PFR and limp calling ranges but didn't know how to calculate steal ranges to combine with an overall vpip stat range....maybe there is a calculation you can do?....but then it would be guesswork because you dont know how many hands you will be stealing lol....ah I dont know...I suppose it doesn't matter, aslong as I know what the villians ranges are, although working it out for when you have a TAG reg and deducting his high stealing % from his usual range would be pretty useful

 

[ScottishMatt]

Thanks peels, what I mean is I would like to get my vpip to between 19-22 and I wondered if opening up (if unopened behind me) with steals on the CO,BTN and SB with ATC would affect my overall VPIP.....I know that I won't be stealing every hand as you can always count on some fish limping in which then makes steal attemps pointless as they will just call it etc.....so I was thinking I would come up with a range on stove for my PFR and limp calling ranges but didn't know how to calculate steal ranges to combine with an overall vpip stat range....maybe there is a calculation you can do?....but then it would be guesswork because you dont know how many hands you will be stealing lol....ah I dont know...I suppose it doesn't matter, aslong as I know what the villians ranges are, although working it out for when you have a TAG reg and deducting his high stealing % from his usual range would be pretty useful

I get you, I think. What I do when I open up the stove to calculate my ranges is have it like this:

- Player 1 = 22+, AJs+ (just an example, but player 1 will account for my UTG range)
- Player 2 = blablabla (MP range)
- Player 3 = (CO range)
- Player 4 = (BTN range)


Doing it this way allows you to see how your ranges are widening as your position gets better, your VPIP will never be the same as it would show here because you can't account for when it is opened before you and you fold. I also forget about blind ranges because it can vary so much. As for your specifics to stealing ranges and stuff I dunno.

FWIW at 6-max micros the passivity allows me to open 75% of my button range (button range on stove is 41% and I manage to open/isolate 30% of the time). So if you plan on opening 50% from the button I reckon you could probably get about 38% of that range.

Hope it helps!

 

[AlfieAA]

I get you, I think. What I do when I open up the stove to calculate my ranges is have it like this:

- Player 1 = 22+, AJs+ (just an example, but player 1 will account for my UTG range)
- Player 2 = blablabla (MP range)
- Player 3 = (CO range)
- Player 4 = (BTN range)


Doing it this way allows you to see how your ranges are widening as your position gets better, your VPIP will never be the same as it would show here because you can't account for when it is opened before you and you fold. I also forget about blind ranges because it can vary so much. As for your specifics to stealing ranges and stuff I dunno.

FWIW at 6-max micros the passivity allows me to open 75% of my button range (button range on stove is 41% and I manage to open/isolate 30% of the time). So if you plan on opening 50% from the button I reckon you could probably get about 38% of that range.

Hope it helps!

thanks matt, i tried your example and got this
EP - 22>AA, AKs-o, AQs, KQs-o = 8.6%


MP - EP+ QJs>AJs, ATs, AJo>AQo, QJo>KJo = 13.4%


CO - all broadways, all pp's,A2s>AA, 45s>AKs = 22.2%


BTN - CO+ A2o>, 67o>, K7s> =33.9%


BLINDS....player dependent


obv its not set in stone positional ranges, just a basic guide, the aim is to be a chameleon poker player and not just 1 type ....

anyway what is the calculation to combine all these percentages to get an overall one?

 

[ScottishMatt]

Add all your ranges together, so 8.6 + 13.4 + 22.2 + 33.9. Then divide by the number of positions, so in this case it would be 4 (EP, MP, CO and BTN).

Like I said above this should give you your perfect range, if you deduct a few points you should be close to what your true VPIP will look like.


Edit: I'll do mine now and see how how my total range differs from my true range, then we can compare and see the results. This way if anyone else wants to try out this method we can give them some form of expectation.

 

[ScottishMatt]

All right so mine is showing 23.3. In reality it is 19, so my blind tightness along with preflop flatting tendencies results in a 4.3 VPIP loss.

What did you get?

 

[AlfieAA]

All right so mine is showing 23.3. In reality it is 19, so my blind tightness along with preflop flatting tendencies results in a 4.3 VPIP loss.

What did you get?

Thanks for showing me how to do it man....I got 19.5

 

[ScottishMatt]

Again though, my button range is about 10% wider than yours, yet I still play 30% OTB. It isn't unreasonable to expect you cannot continue with your entire BTN range. Also depends on your blind play . . . I'm a blinds nit. Throw all that together and you might only be deducting 2 points. So if you expand your BTN range you could come up with higher VPIP.

 

[Logan2]

Newbie posting for help with a BE stretch and crushing on 2nl if anyone want to look on his stats.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-games-11/downswing-bad-play-219409/#post2031644

Looks solid to me.
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[AlfieAA]

Again though, my button range is about 10% wider than yours, yet I still play 30% OTB. It isn't unreasonable to expect you cannot continue with your entire BTN range. Also depends on your blind play . . . I'm a blinds nit. Throw all that together and you might only be deducting 2 points. So if you expand your BTN range you could come up with higher VPIP.

Yeah I will need to play a few hands to get a decent sample then compare them...its pretty hard to do predict steal frequency so its prob best to leave that out...

 

[Ducky7]

Just recorded like a 40-50 minute small video, not brillaint and that many spots but when ive finished my session ill edit and upload, gimme like 2/3 hours to finish and edit hope ya'll enjoy it