MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

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micromachine said:
vs a decent reg. I puked a bit


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($8.53)
Hero (UTG) ($8.18)
MP ($7.56)
CO ($5.17)
Button ($5.86)
SB ($17.72)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
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, A
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Hero bets $0.17, 2 folds, Button calls $0.17, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.56) A
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, K
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, 10
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.26) Q
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.30

River: ($5.26) 7
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(2 players)
SB bets $5.05, Hero folds

Total pot: $5.26 | Rake: $0.22

SB didn't show

Probably bet folding the Turn here after he re raises. Other then that played fine IMO.
 
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Was hoping to boat up, also he might have been bullshitting and given up OTR :D
 
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I just don't think a reg is bluffing there very often and it looks like a complete value raise I think. Atleast you had a bit of a plan after the call or it would be complete spew haha
 
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I think is ok, at least i play the same and puke also, and agree about call turn because mostly give up on river if bluffing. Boat sounds good too but thinking a little more not totally sure if we hit our boat he still gii on river with a st8 on a paired board with all high cards there and after you raise pre from utg.
 
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Thinking about it more I reckon my turn call is OK there.

I have 10 outs so with one street I have 20% chance of making quads or a boat.

Assuming I hit and he doesn't put any more in, I am calling 1.3 to win 5.3 so the call is 25% of what I could win. So calling is slightly unprofitable if he doesn't put any more in. But if we take into account that a) he may be bluffing or have a weaker hand so I don't even need outs and b) he will probably call a small value bet OTR even if the board pairs, then I think it is fine to call.
 
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I think that's a good analysis and agree completely :)
 
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My KK lost to AA yesterday after I flatted a 3bet from a guy who 3bets 1% over 450 hands.

I reluctantly called him down postflop over a couple of streets even though I knew he was going to have bloody AA. Second time that's happened recently vs a 1% 3bet nit bastard.

So what's best here?
1) Fold to the 3bet (sickening)
2) Flat and fold to further betting unless you bink a set?
3) 4bet (smallish) then fold if he 5bets?
 
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Hand 1: micromachine.
I think checking that turn would be better, it gives him a chance to represent the jack on the turn and then give up OTR if he is bluffing or you can just call for less of a price to hit a full house than you would of with the line you took (calling his raise). Also most hands are folding to that turn bet once 4 to a straight comes.
Hand 2:micromachine
I think option two is a good line as if he bets more than two streets you can safely fold and think you're beat (also depends on board and bet sizing of villain). Also I think option 3 is fine if you are playing Deep stack poker, 250 BB's and villain is deep as well as he is never ever 5 betting anything you can beat here. Maybe min-4 betting if you are both 100bb's is fine as well as long as you can fold if he 5 bets or flat calls and shows aggression on later streets. Option 1 is completely sickening to do and I don't think I could do it but if you have the displine to I would say definately choose option 1 (depends on the size of his 3 bet). Also this guy is the definition of a NIT.
 
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I hate paying NITS off though, It hurts so much. So im leaning towards option 2 as I dont have the guts to fold kings pre haha
 
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micromachine said:
My KK lost to AA yesterday after I flatted a 3bet from a guy who 3bets 1% over 450 hands.

I reluctantly called him down postflop over a couple of streets even though I knew he was going to have bloody AA. Second time that's happened recently vs a 1% 3bet nit bastard.

So what's best here?
1) Fold to the 3bet (sickening)
2) Flat and fold to further betting unless you bink a set?
3) 4bet (smallish) then fold if he 5bets?

set hunt, you stack him close to 100% of the time (except on AK boards where we dodge a cooler)
 
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micromachine said:
Thinking about it more I reckon my turn call is OK there.

I have 10 outs so with one street I have 20% chance of making quads or a boat.

Assuming I hit and he doesn't put any more in, I am calling 1.3 to win 5.3 so the call is 25% of what I could win. So calling is slightly unprofitable if he doesn't put any more in. But if we take into account that a) he may be bluffing or have a weaker hand so I don't even need outs and b) he will probably call a small value bet OTR even if the board pairs, then I think it is fine to call.
Agree, was looking on some charts and you need to be ahead just 33% of the time if call on a potted river to be profitable. And if you hit your outs need that villain call a bet of like 1/3 pot to be profitable. So adding both is ok to call.
 
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Micro, I'm flatting 100% preflop, folding if he shows aggression post. Basically you're set-mining against his range since we know he stacks off basically 100% of the time so our implied odds are good enough even in a 3bet pot imo.
 
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What a better birthday present than win $115 in a local casino. weeeeeeee:D
 
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micromachine said:
Thinking about it more I reckon my turn call is OK there.

I have 10 outs so with one street I have 20% chance of making quads or a boat.

Assuming I hit and he doesn't put any more in, I am calling 1.3 to win 5.3 so the call is 25% of what I could win. So calling is slightly unprofitable if he doesn't put any more in. But if we take into account that a) he may be bluffing or have a weaker hand so I don't even need outs and b) he will probably call a small value bet OTR even if the board pairs, then I think it is fine to call.
We're calling 1.3 into a 3.96 pot with (let's say) 20% equity. We're getting immediate 33% . We need to make at least 6.5 total from the pot to BE on our call (1.3/.2), so we need him to be calling at least another 2.54 on the river to be BE on our call on the turn. We're IP so we must imagine we'll get him to at least call that much on the river if checked to. OOP and the call is probably closer.

I could be wrong since the only reason I'm up right now is cos I've got a headache, can't sleep and came into the office to seek out some ibuprofen :)
 
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Just want some opinions on this!
Are we happy to stack of AK on an ace high rainbow flop against agro fish????
 
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stats are around 32/28 over around 100 hands.
 
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If you believe he'll stack off post flop light, especially in the light of your likely strong holding, then yes. Sometimes people can have laggish stats pre but sober up post. Have you got the HH?
 
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Yeah I truly did believe he was going to stack off with a weaker ace or even a big pocket pair. Just wondering if this call is all that bad without telling you the outcome of the hand.
And he did keep up his aggression post flop most hands I saw.
 
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Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2096177
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CO: $2.47
BTN: $3.91
SB: $6.00
Hero (BB): $3.58
UTG: $0.71
MP: $2.06

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q :club: A :diamond:
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.17) T :diamond: 4 :heart: 4 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.37) J :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN folds
 
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Do you think this is a spewy semi bluff or just fine?
And I decided to flat pre instead of 3bet mainly because his range is so wide from the BTN if I 3bet he is probably folding straight away and Im not giving him chances to fire away on boards I have hit.
 
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Depends almost entirely on the opponent.
 
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His stats were pretty normal for 6 max and he was a reg. He was bullying the table a bit at the time aswell. Just felt like playing back at him and it worked, just wondering if its a decent play or spewy.
 
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Jackle43 said:
Yeah I truly did believe he was going to stack off with a weaker ace or even a big pocket pair. Just wondering if this call is all that bad without telling you the outcome of the hand.
And he did keep up his aggression post flop most hands I saw.

Don't show outcome, but post HH. Need to see board and action.
 
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Cafeman31 said:
We're calling 1.3 into a 3.96 pot with (let's say) 20% equity. We're getting immediate 33% . We need to make at least 6.5 total from the pot to BE on our call (1.3/.2), so we need him to be calling at least another 2.54 on the river to be BE on our call on the turn. We're IP so we must imagine we'll get him to at least call that much on the river if checked to. OOP and the call is probably closer.

I could be wrong since the only reason I'm up right now is cos I've got a headache, can't sleep and came into the office to seek out some ibuprofen :)

Yeah we need a 6.5 final pot to make the turn call BE, but after my turn call the pot is 5.3, so not too far off...we don't need him to put in another 2.54 OTR, if he calls only another 1.1 river bet it would be ok (5.3 + 1.1 +1.1 = 6.5). It's closer than you think...I think.
 
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Love having to pay bills from online poker roll. Guess im starting the 2nl grind all over again just as I finally got the roll to move completely to 5nl....
 
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