MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[pocketehs]

Donk Bets...
What do they usually mean from fish??
Happened so often the session I just had. I would be PFR and every flop I would get donked into. I usually just re raised them and they would fold (easy money)
but what does a donk bet usually mean?
Sad attempt at a bluff and steal the pot or weak mid pair or something?

depends on size and the board. I raise like almost all donk bets that at like 1/3-1/2 pot because its usually air. If its like 1/2 on a J98ss board and I have a piece of the flop Im probs just calling.

post some hands for spots?

 

[JOEBOB69]

Donk Bets...
What do they usually mean from fish??
Happened so often the session I just had. I would be PFR and every flop I would get donked into. I usually just re raised them and they would fold (easy money)
but what does a donk bet usually mean?
Sad attempt at a bluff and steal the pot or weak mid pair or something?

**** me i don't know donk bets make me do bat shit crazy stuff. Normally small donk bets mean small to mid pair/draw of some kind. Mid size donk bets mean????? ~ pot size top pair/set/good draw/two pair.

 

[Jackle43]

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2100674
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $0.23
Hero (BTN): $2.25
SB: $1.38
BB: $1.92
UTG: $2.40

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: 8 :diamond:
1 fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, BB calls $0.06, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.19) 3 :heart: 7 :diamond: 9 :club: (2 players)
BB bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.22, BB folds

 

[Jackle43]

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2100678
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $0.18
Hero (UTG): $2.07
CO: $1.40
BTN: $1.94
SB: $2.43

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A :heart: Q :heart:
Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.18) 9 :heart: 9 :club: 6 :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.36, SB folds

 

[Jackle43]

There are just two donk bet hands that happened today in a session.
It was only an hour session and I saw about 20 Donk bets...

 

[Jackle43]

No history with Villains either. Though villain in hand 2 donk bet most flops on that table so that is why I re raised him and got his dead money.

 

[pocketehs]

There are just two donk bet hands that happened today in a session.
It was only an hour session and I saw about 20 Donk bets...

both look good to me. people freak out on paired flops.

In general I just say raise donk bets if its weak sizing and it wont make use have to call off if they shove.

 

[Jackle43]

What range can we give these fishy donk bets though? To flat pre and donk flop?

 

[duggs]

id be flatting that 2nd donk bet, alot less low paired hands we can make fold on that texture

 

[pocketehs]

thoughts here?

77/3/1.4 w 11% 3Bet over 31 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($17.88)
SB ($14.30)
BB ($6.31)
UTG ($4)
Villain (MP) ($28.01)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

1 fold, Villain calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, Villain calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95) 9

, 3

, 6

(2 players)
Villain bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, Villain raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $3, Villain raises to $4.90, Hero calls $1.90

Turn: ($10.75) J

(2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $4.70, Villain calls $4.70

River: ($20.15) 4

(2 players)
Villain bets $18.01 (All-In), Hero calls $7.88 (All-In)

Total pot: $35.91 | Rake: $1.50

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Ehhh... I prob just flat the villain's 3bet OTF unless you know he limp-calls TT/JJ or will go crazy with Ac9x or something in this spot. Preflop stats don't tell you everything, plus small sample, but he seems like he's shaping up to be quite passive, and FDs never ever min 3bet here.

The other thing is that if you have a read and thin that his min3bet/min5bet line doesn't have you crushed, then just play to GII. Further bets beyond 5bet won't change his range that much imo. But the minbet/min3bet/min5bet looks uber-strong to me. Classic raise trying to get more money in but not scare away. Looks like a set or some weird-ass two pair on the flop.

OTT I would have expected him to lead out or x/r all in, so no clue what he's doing. Ac9x might x/c here and then lead river, but honestly the turn and river play confounds me.

 

[pocketehs]

Ehhh... I prob just flat the villain's 3bet OTF unless you know he limp-calls TT/JJ or will go crazy with Ac9x or something in this spot. Preflop stats don't tell you everything, plus small sample, but he seems like he's shaping up to be quite passive, and FDs never ever min 3bet here.

The other thing is that if you have a read and thin that his min3bet/min5bet line doesn't have you crushed, then just play to GII. Further bets beyond 5bet won't change his range that much imo. But the minbet/min3bet/min5bet looks uber-strong to me. Classic raise trying to get more money in but not scare away. Looks like a set or some weird-ass two pair on the flop.

OTT I would have expected him to lead out or x/r all in, so no clue what he's doing. Ac9x might x/c here and then lead river, but honestly the turn and river play confounds me.

his or mine? because I was totally lost in this hand.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

His. My gut is telling me that my read is actually not valid because what he's doing is so out there that conventional hand reading probably isn't gonna help much.

 

[Jackle43]

That is probably the most confusing hand I have ever seen....
push the flop and cross your fingers??? thats about the best idea I can come up with haha

 

[Jurn8]

thoughts here?

77/3/1.4 w 11% 3Bet over 31 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($17.88)
SB ($14.30)
BB ($6.31)
UTG ($4)
Villain (MP) ($28.01)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

1 fold, Villain calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, Villain calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95) 9

, 3

, 6

(2 players)
Villain bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, Villain raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $3, Villain raises to $4.90, Hero calls $1.90

Turn: ($10.75) J

(2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $4.70, Villain calls $4.70

River: ($20.15) 4

(2 players)
Villain bets $18.01 (All-In), Hero calls $7.88 (All-In)

Total pot: $35.91 | Rake: $1.50

Raise flop bigger to his min donk & is this at a 6max table or FR table?

 

[pocketehs]

Raise flop bigger to his min donk & is this at a 6max table or FR table?

When someone donks like nothing like that I just bet my normal amount but yeah I should be raising more.


and its 6max

 

[Yoshimiii]

Raise donk bet slightly more, flat call his re-raise on flop, betting turn is fine and river is obviously a call.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Ik we aren't supposed to post coolers but this maniac pissed me off, made me lose a stack . He had 7/6o...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($20.76)
Hero (MP) ($34.06)
Button ($26.88)
SB ($25)
BB ($19.57)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J

, J

1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB raises to $19.55 (All-In), Hero raises to $34.04 (All-In), Button calls $26.56 (All-In)

Flop: ($73.42) 3

, 2

, Q

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($73.42) 5

(3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($73.42) 6

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $73.42 | Rake: $1.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Button had A

, A

(one pair, Aces).
BB didn't show
Hero had J

, J

(one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $71.92

Also 2 hands here;

Ovbiously I am light 4 betting here as I didn't think villain would call without very premium hands. I called the river as I don't see any 5's in his hand here and it looks like a bluff as if he had the 5 I think he would bet smaller for value against my overpair type hands.
Stats 27/24/2.8 3bet % 12.5
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($14.52)
Hero (SB) ($28.55)
BB ($31.10)
UTG ($32.33)
MP ($20.96)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

, 6

3 folds, Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.20, BB calls $1.20

Flop: ($4.50) 8

, 6

, 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($4.50) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.10, BB calls $2.10

River: ($8.70) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

Total pot: $20.70 | Rake: $0.93

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 7

, 6

(two pair, sevens and sixes).
BB had Q

, K

(high card, King).
Outcome: Hero won $19.77

Check flop maybe? I think by the river the only thing I can beat is a missed flush draw.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($7.21)
Hero (BB) ($29.12)
UTG ($19.94)
MP ($9.32)
CO ($23.54)
Button ($23.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, A

2 folds, CO bets $0.40, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, CO calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.77) Q

, K

, J

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.70, CO calls $1.70

Turn: ($6.17) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($6.17) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero folds

Total pot: $6.17 | Rake: $0.28

Results below:

Spoiler

CO didn't show

 

[pocketehs]

Ik we aren't supposed to post coolers but this maniac pissed me off, made me lose a stack . He had 7/6o...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($20.76)
Hero (MP) ($34.06)
Button ($26.88)
SB ($25)
BB ($19.57)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J

, J

1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB raises to $19.55 (All-In), Hero raises to $34.04 (All-In), Button calls $26.56 (All-In)

Flop: ($73.42) 3

, 2

, Q

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($73.42) 5

(3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($73.42) 6

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $73.42 | Rake: $1.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Button had A

, A

(one pair, Aces).
BB didn't show
Hero had J

, J

(one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $71.92

Also 2 hands here;

Ovbiously I am light 4 betting here as I didn't think villain would call without very premium hands. I called the river as I don't see any 5's in his hand here and it looks like a bluff as if he had the 5 I think he would bet smaller for value against my overpair type hands.
Stats 27/24/2.8 3bet % 12.5
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($14.52)
Hero (SB) ($28.55)
BB ($31.10)
UTG ($32.33)
MP ($20.96)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

, 6

3 folds, Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.20, BB calls $1.20

Flop: ($4.50) 8

, 6

, 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($4.50) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.10, BB calls $2.10

River: ($8.70) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

Total pot: $20.70 | Rake: $0.93

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 7

, 6

(two pair, sevens and sixes).
BB had Q

, K

(high card, King).
Outcome: Hero won $19.77

Check flop maybe? I think by the river the only thing I can beat is a missed flush draw.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($7.21)
Hero (BB) ($29.12)
UTG ($19.94)
MP ($9.32)
CO ($23.54)
Button ($23.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, A

2 folds, CO bets $0.40, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, CO calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.77) Q

, K

, J

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.70, CO calls $1.70

Turn: ($6.17) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($6.17) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero folds

Total pot: $6.17 | Rake: $0.28

Results below:

Spoiler

CO didn't show

hate the first hand man unless youve seen him shove 200bbs with complete air. I dont get it.

I think you played hand 2 awesome. Doubt he ever has a 5 like you said and cant see him 3-bet/call with small PPs. nh wp

Hand 3 - think you played it fine. when you 3-bet you have to cbet that board. im almost incline to barrel the turn as well cuase if he has like AJ/AQ he has to fold the turn. any f3bet stats?

 

[Cafeman]

Hand 1 isn't a cooler.
Hand 3 why aren't we calling river?

 

[Yoshimiii]

Btw hand 1 is a complete cooler, the BB guy shoved the past 5 hands and turned over 7/5 offsuit, just lame that the guy behind me had A/A. (don't know why it doesn't show that he had 7/5o in the hand because he did.

Hand 3 I didn't have many stats on him I don't think but he did seem like a good player. The reason I didn't call the river is because what can we beat? we tie with A/K and lose to all two pairs/sets/straights that he can have. Also it's not a weakish bet either, 2/3 of the pot looks like a value bet. If he has K/10 or A/Q type hands I don't think he would bet that much on the river. Just my thought. I don't know why he checked back the turn though.

Also he did call our 3 bet OOP, so I think the only reasonable hand that he can have here that takes this line that doesn't beat us is A/K or A/Q (maybe).

 

[Cafeman]

Btw hand 1 is a complete cooler, the BB guy shoved the past 5 hands and turned over 7/5 offsuit, just lame that the guy behind me had A/A. (don't know why it doesn't show that he had 7/5o in the hand because he did.

Well if he's shoving everything then obv it's a call, I just hadn't spotted where you said that.

 

[pocketehs]

im clearly ****in terrible at poker as im gettin crushed at 10NL. taking at least a week off to decide if im gunna keep playing or not cuase this is insane to put so much effort into something where im just getting owned every ****in hand. unreal

 

[Yoshimiii]

im clearly ****in terrible at poker as im gettin crushed at 10NL. taking at least a week off to decide if im gunna keep playing or not cuase this is insane to put so much effort into something where im just getting owned every ****in hand. unreal

, sad to hear it, maybe you could post quite a few hands on here and see what's going wrong after your break? If we can work on one flaw at a time, the major flaws first then minor then it would surely help, just a thought, I know it may seem like nothing can help but if you keep trying one day it is inevitable that you will be able to beat 10nl. Or even post a video of your session here, I am sure that this would help the most as it helps more than single hands historys as we can see what cards you are playing from position, your steals etc.

On a side note I have moved up from 10nl 6 max 100bb's deep to 6max 10nl 250 BB's deep (ante's also) and I have been crushing them (I have been running good, with no suckouts yet), deep stack poker seems to have a ton of fish with so much dead money behind them. Also I just made a video on my poker session, will upload it soon, I find that being able to talk and hear my own thought process and thinking clearly before clicking any buttons really helps even though I timed out a couple of times on tables .

 

[The Messiah]

im clearly ****in terrible at poker as im gettin crushed at 10NL. taking at least a week off to decide if im gunna keep playing or not cuase this is insane to put so much effort into something where im just getting owned every ****in hand. unreal

Cant say im surprised!!