MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[AlfieAA]

Yeah, Stove was certainly one of the pioneers but it was crude as far as apps go and pretty much abandoned for years, so a number of others stepped in to do it better. The last update of PokerStove I'm aware of is 1.24 which came out early last year I think, and as I recall only had some minor bug fixes -- nothing major, and the graphical anomalies like the window resizing bugs weren't fixed. I found the site as of Jan 22nd in the web archive here, and the download link on that page still works (as of right now). So grab it while you can.

Combonator is $45 for the Pro version, with a key that can be used on 2 computers. I think it was like $20-$25 for a lifetime license when I bought it a couple years ago, but it got pretty popular and the price went up accordingly when the author starting putting more time into enhancements and support. They do offer a free version with some restrictions, but I believe the equity calcs are only available in the Pro version. It is a sweet and highly polished little piece of software though, and goes way beyond what Stove can do. They have a number of tutorial videos available that you might find helpful.

Flopzilla is put out by CardRunners and costs $35. There is a 7 day trial with some features disabled. It's popular but I don't care for the cartoony graphics and it just seems a bit harder to use (I've never taken the time to really master it though). It's also a lot more advanced than Stove.

CR puts out another EV analysis tool called CardRunnersEV that costs $99 for the first license and $55 for the second. I've never tried it.

The free version of Slice is still downloadable but they're not taking payments for the paid version now -- their site has a message about registrations being suspended while they're transitioning to a new owner.

Between the ones mentioned, I like Combonator the best. I do recall running across some other freebies for the PC but it's been awhile and they didn't really compare to these.

Thank you for all the info david, will check it all out, much appreciated

 

[Yoshimiii]

One more Please don't say fold pre I wanted to play vs the maniac, would like comments about what happened post flop.

MP: 86/51, 20%3b, about 30 hands - stats seem maniac but I got the impression he wasnt a total fish
BTN: 29/17, 9%3b, 25 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($9)
MP ($19.66)
CO ($6.56)
Button ($5)
SB ($5)
Hero (BB) ($7.16)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

, 6

1 fold, MP bets $0.15, CO calls $0.15, Button calls $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) 8

, 3

, 6

(4 players)
Hero bets $0.35, MP calls $0.35, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.84, Hero calls $0.49, MP calls $0.49

Turn: ($3.14) 5

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $2.42, Hero raises to $4.84, 1 fold, Button calls $1.59 (All-In)

River: ($11.16) K

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $11.16 | Rake: $0.46

Check-Raise to maniac on flop don't donk bet -_-. Also re-raise flop when you get raised, he probably has a draw. Also why are u donk betting nearly half pot on a draw heavy board?
Calling pre-flop is mandatory here I think unlike scourge, you are against maniac and two other players, have a 1 gapp suited connector and are getting a discount on calling, why would you not want to call with the pot odds you are getting to try and hit a monster and stack someone?

 

[Yoshimiii]

Vs Laggy player 52/32 13%3b over 200 hands. Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($9.77)
SB ($6.18)
BB ($5.19)
UTG ($5)
Hero (MP) ($5.14)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

, Q

1 fold, Hero bets $0.17, Button raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.57) 2

, K

, 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($1.57) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, Button raises to $2, Hero calls $1.10

River: ($5.57) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.39 (All-In)

Total pot: $10.35 | Rake: $0.43

bet flop, fold turn, fold river. However depends how agg villain is and whether he is good aggressive or a bad agg. His stats tell me he is a bad aggressive player so if you have seen him stack off light on more than one occasion before then I think it's fine, otherwise no

 

[RamdeeBen]

I'm never folding QQ to a lag here. I'm sure he bets the flop if he has a King, get it in and expect him to show up with worse a lot of the time.

I bet flop, bet turn& get it in.

Although, I don't mind that passive line on the flop because it's so dry and if your plan was to let him spew turn.rivers like he did. He likely thinks you don't have a king on the flop, a lag also doesn't really check back a K so probs thinks his 8 or 9 is good and wants to play for stacks.

 

[Cafeman]

Spoiler

#HOTD

IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BTN: $5.58 (55.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
BB: $20.02 (200.2 bb)
UTG: $10.13 (101.3 bb)
MP: $9.74 (97.4 bb)
CO: $8.76 (87.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

6

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.40, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.35, BB folds

Flop: ($1.30) 6

J

T

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.97, CO raises to $8.36 and is all-in, Hero raises to $9.75 and is all-in, MP calls $8.37

Turn: ($28.34) 7

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($28.34) 9

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $28.34 pot ($1.88 rake)
Final Board: 6

J

T

7

9

Hero mucked 6

6

and won $1.83 (-$7.91 net)
MP showed Q

Q

and lost (-$9.74 net)
CO showed 8

T

and won $24.63 ($15.87 net)

 

[Yoshimiii]

I'm never folding QQ to a lag here. I'm sure he bets the flop if he has a King, get it in and expect him to show up with worse a lot of the time.

I bet flop, bet turn& get it in.

Although, I don't mind that passive line on the flop because it's so dry and if your plan was to let him spew turn.rivers like he did. He likely thinks you don't have a king on the flop, a lag also doesn't really check back a K so probs thinks his 8 or 9 is good and wants to play for stacks.

I am a lagg and I would never get it in with worse than a king , but I can see what your saying this Lagg is more of a reckless fish than a lagg.

 

[RamdeeBen]

lol easy game cafe. whats the br now lol.

 

[RamdeeBen]

Yeah I'm just assuming he's a really bad lag with 52/32 who will likely stack any pair when we check the flop.

 

[Cafeman]

lol easy game cafe. whats the br now lol.

€180, they're putting me through the variance mill atm. Meh, it'll be OK

 

[Yoshimiii]

What do you guys think here, I think seen as he is a NIT and he never gets it in with J/J or worse we can fold pre right?:

Stats: 19/12/1.8/ 3bet% 4.4 Hand sample: 388
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($35.15)
Hero (SB) ($26.31)
BB ($25.35)
UTG ($25)
MP ($25.35)
CO ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, Q

UTG bets $1, MP calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, UTG raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $26.31 (All-In), UTG calls $18 (All-In)

Flop: ($51.25) 8

, A

, 2

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($51.25) 5

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($51.25) 6

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $51.25 | Rake: $2

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had Q

, Q

(one pair, Queens).
UTG had A

, A

(flush, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG won $49.25

 

[RamdeeBen]

His 4bet looks really strong, I don;'t think a nit 4bets JJ like this, or even A,K..I thnk they just 4bet jam those or flat with postion and this 4bet looks like KK/AA but I don't often fold QQ anyway lol.

 

[Cafeman]

You could make a decent argument for a disciplined fold here imo yeah. Sometimes you're flipping but mostly it's the nuts vs a nit.

 

[Cafeman]

When I first went to 10NL on ipoker I didn't know anyone, and this dude made a super obv sqz and I jammed with AQs and he turned out to be the biggest nit in the universe.... One of the regs put in chat..."I knew it" when matey flipped over The Aces. I didn't appreciate just how big he'd made it. Ah well...

 

[Yoshimiii]

Warning Sick fold below: Villain had auto-rebuy on and had "Hide me from 'find player" Other than that he had just sat down and was an unknown.

I think it was a well disciplined fold, whether it was correct or not is a different matter .

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($25.65)
SB ($33.74)
BB ($19.50)
UTG ($24.30)
MP ($26.03)
CO ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8

, 8

2 folds, CO (poster) bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 9

, 10

, 8

(3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $1, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, CO raises to $7.50, Hero folds

Total pot: $8.35 | Rake: $0.38

 

[AlfieAA]

Warning Sick fold below: Villain had auto-rebuy on and had "Hide me from 'find player" Other than that he had just sat down and was an unknown.

I think it was a well disciplined fold, whether it was correct or not is a different matter .

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($25.65)
SB ($33.74)
BB ($19.50)
UTG ($24.30)
MP ($26.03)
CO ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8

, 8

2 folds, CO (poster) bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 9

, 10

, 8

(3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $1, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, CO raises to $7.50, Hero folds

Total pot: $8.35 | Rake: $0.38

Sick fold, great fold if he had 67-JQ....lolbad fold if he had A10 lol...would
he not just station and ship the river if he had JQ and maybe re raise with 67 to get info and see if you would continue with the higher straight...looks like 67 to me...yeah great fold.....I think....lol

 

[Logan2]

you forgot 99/TT too Alfy that have us beat.

Great fold Yosh. He could have JJ or T8 aside of the TT/99/JQ/67 or other stuff, not sure he 3b with T8 there (i don´t know if is correct but need to have lot of discipline there).


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[AlfieAA]

you forgot 99/TT too Alfy that have us beat.

Great fold Yosh. He could have JJ or T8 aside of the TT/99/JQ/67 or other stuff, not sure he 3b with T8 there (i don´t know if is correct but need to have lot of discipline there).


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Yeah true man, I was just highlighting the two most obvious ones lol, not sure he would open pre with T8 though from the CO...maybe the button but no the CO I dont think, unless he's a super loose/agg.....but then again would he just not station a set until the river?...if I was a soul reader I would shout 67s

 

[Yoshimiii]

you forgot 99/TT too Alfy that have us beat.

Great fold Yosh. He could have JJ or T8 aside of the TT/99/JQ/67 or other stuff, not sure he 3b with T8 there (i don´t know if is correct but need to have lot of discipline there).


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Ye that's why I wasn't happy with calling, higher sets have us beat too, would have been a much harder fold with top set. I really think he had J/Q or a higher set here imo. Also it's more likely he has 9/10 here rather than 8/10 and I did think about J/J but I would think that he would call me down rather than 4 bet us.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Yeah true man, I was just highlighting the two most obvious ones lol, not sure he would open pre with T8 though from the CO...maybe the button but no the CO I dont think, unless he's a super loose/agg.....but then again would he just not station a set until the river?...if I was a soul reader I would shout 67s

Nah a higher set can still raise, I would be expecting two pairs to call down but I think if he had a higher set he would be leaning to raising quite often in this spot to get value from lower two pairs/sets/straight draws.

 

[Logan2]

Yeah true man, I was just highlighting the two most obvious ones lol, not sure he would open pre with T8 though from the CO...maybe the button but no the CO I dont think, unless he's a super loose/agg.....but then again would he just not station a set until the river?...if I was a soul reader I would shout 67s

No with that flop, he need to gii fast before a J or 7 come and kill all action.

Ye that's why I wasn't happy with calling, higher sets have us beat too, would have been a much harder fold with top set. I really think he had J/Q or a higher set here imo.

Yeah higher set will be so hard to fold there vs unknown.

 

[orangepeeleo]

Good fold yoshi, I was playing with you yesterday for a bit, not sure if you recognised if it was me or not? The bane avatar?

 

[orangepeeleo]

Considering giving ipoker 20nl games a little spin after I've grinded out my next stellar, reg 25nl tables on stars seem to be a bit shitty and I keep finding myself playing zoom because it seems to be a bit fishier, what do you think of them yoshi so far?

 

[Yoshimiii]

Good fold yoshi, I was playing with you yesterday for a bit, not sure if you recognised if it was me or not? The bane avatar?

lol no thought u were a random. Left the table cause no fish were there. Hope I didn't do anything stupid :O. Ye I imagine stars is harder than Ipoker, Usually only 1 fish per good table, but I don't wana switch sites, I would rather just keep playing at stars and try to improve. I haven't played zoom ever since I was a fish myself lol, I never did any good at it. Which stellar reward are you on peelo? I just finished my first $50 reward.

Also did you randomly find me or did you search for me? because I thought I couldn't be found in the player search.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I already said doing it with the 86s IN position seems fine. Out of position you have every disadvantage, and you're multiway holding a crappy hand that is EXTREMELY face up when it hits a hand you have any chance to stack someone with.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Also donk is typically going to be better than check-raising unless you know for a fact that the maniac doesn't shut down when facing aggression as strong as a check-raise into a 3way flop...