Most Difficult Pocket Pair to Play

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xdmanx007 said:
Take your pick 8,9,or 10's. Jacks are still a power hand and should be played as such. The problem is most low stakes players outright refuse to throw away an ace regardless of your raise, that is why they seem to get cut often. Yes you absolutely need to consider dumping your hand if overcards come out especially an ace. I will usually represent I have aces after the flop with my bets if I have K,Q, or J's. But if you get called or fired back at cut your losses and fold.
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I would say that pocket 10s have are worth more than pocket Jacks because you need a 10 or a 5 to make a straight. Therefore I would rather take the help from the 10s in making the straight as you have almost the same chances as with Jacks, as Queens, Kings, and Aces can beat them both
 
I think its down to the individuals experience we all have lucky or unlucky cards my fav. at the moment seems to, be 10's but if I win a good couple of pots with pair of deuces it will soon change to them!
 
I agree with T1riel due to the fact dueces are VERY low so even though you have a pair to start with its almost guaranteed that you will be beat unless you turn it into a set, but those odds are a different story??
 
IrishDave said:
All of them, as no pair is invincible. Would rather be dealt suited connectors, preferably AK...
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So AK suited is more invincible than KK or AA? Thats strange.
 
hi there
depends on tourney or cash game.
always think of a reason why you should fold and do so, however difficult
good luck on the tables
 
Hi All,
I would say Jacks are pretty tricky..people seem to be drawn to them and still continue to call on the board even when there is say an A,K or Q up there..i was playing 20/40 on paradise and i was sitting out this hand and there was something like $1200 in the pot and it went to a showdown and the loser showed pocket jacks whilst the winner had A 10 and A hit on the flop..but the other guy was like capping every bet...

I have to agree with buff on deuces,i like them..as long as its not too expensive to see the flop i'll happily play them in the chance of hitting the 7/1 trips..if you can make hay when you do at avg. odds of 7/1 hitting they are well worth playing. I don't agree with trial due to the fact he's missing a rather big point..if a 2 hits the flop you've got trips and say the oppenent has A 7 (bad hand in my opinion) and the flop is 10 7 2.. turn is another 7 as trial stated. they have made trips but you've made full house (2's full). And as for debrie...wow!:thumpdown you'd prefer suited connectors over pairs? hand over your money! Every pair is marginal or big fave or suited connectors..even deuces against AK is (i think from memory,i'll check later) 50.5% fave pre flop...so even say pair of 8's against 6,7 7,8 suited is a big fave over connectors. But everyone has their own style but i'm pretty sure almost every pro will say they'll rather have a pair then connecting cards.
Any comments welcome
John
 
I love small pocket pairs if I can limp in to see the flop. You hit what, 12 percent of the time? Those are good odds and chances are you will have the best hand and people will bet into you.
 
Jacks by far, Many players dont realize that jacks are basically another middle pair. Any paint on the board will surely do you in! and it sucks too
 
jacks..

again, heads up is the best way to play them...and remember...with jacks..if someone calls your all in, you're either killed or its a crapshoot...bad either way
 
The hardest one's for me to play......are the one's I don't make a set with...lol
 
I would never go all in with jacks before the flop, even heads up. Too little control but that's just my preference. After the flop, well that's been discussed already. Very good point about beginners holding on to an ace no matter what the kicker - i'm still guilty of that sometimes!
 
i think middle pairs (8s,9s,10s) are the hardest to play. Low pairs are easy to fold because there are usually at least 2 over cards on the flop
 
I agree with Flipper, but i think Jacks are even harder to play than 8s 9s or 10s because if someone makes a big raise it's not that hard to fold 8s or 9s but jacks are really hard to fold before the flop. Did Anyone see the play on wsop 2005 when someone(forgot his name) folded pocket queens pre flop? i thought that was pretty cool and very profesional
 
Flipper33 said:
i think middle pairs (8s,9s,10s) are the hardest to play. Low pairs are easy to fold because there are usually at least 2 over cards on the flop
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:biggrin: Man thats so true, i cant stand folding middle pairs.
 
Jacks and then Queens. Queens you have to play, however anyone with an ace or a king is a threat to call, especially if they have a high kicker
 
Assholes who call with Ace, 4. Pocket Jacks statistically have a very good chance of winning and should be played as such.
 
anything below pocket 10s is hard cuz u usually need to end up gettin a set
 
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