Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

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Tabazaba said:
Glad I've finally caught up with this, past week I've been reading the book and reading forums as most of my questions were already answered. My game has already improved immensely and wanted to give my thanks to John. Hopefully I can start attributing here now.
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Cool, glad to have you aboard. You're welcome and I'm glad it's helped. Whatever questions you do start to have, just post them here. Don't be shy. Now that summer is wrapping up hopefully I can finish off this workbook soon since I think it will be extremely helpful.
 
Awesome! well ive been playing and i guess im just having a down swing of some sort. The people on bovada play pretty crazy imo but the hands that have killed me are the ones that chase flushes, but just push after the flop. I have lost every all in (10 now) and i may or may not be just a little tilted😱 . I know thats smallish sample but to me its disheartening haha. Its not like they even shove with 2 overs or anything its shove i have a 4 draw. Any advice? am i not supposed to push because im ahead everytime i call. I have an over pair, pocket pair or trips everytime i call. So any incite to this? or just roll with it cause its killing my bank roll
 
Also cant wait for that workbook, pretty bummed i didnt stumble onto this earlier with that all star cast of coaches you had. Def with jay on there, watched 2m2m tho they didnt make it that life style motivated the .... out of me haha
 
Do we call this?

(Poker Stars) €10.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €12.66 EUR ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 1.6, Hands: 772
Seat 2: Player2 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 10, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 79
Seat 3: Player3 ( €8.42 EUR ) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 32
Seat 4: Player4 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 2.1, Hands: 721
Seat 5: Player5 ( €12.53 EUR ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 5, 3B: 1, AF: 0.7, Hands: 364
Seat 6: Player6 ( €11.44 EUR ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, Ag% 27, Hands: 813
Seat 8: Hero ( €24.26 EUR ) - VPIP:22 , PFR:18 , 3B:4.5 , Ag%:33 Hands:141
Seat 9: Player9 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 39, PFR: 4, 3B: 5, AF: 1.0, Hands: 104
Player3 posts small blind [€0.05 EUR].
Player4 posts big blind [€0.10 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 6c 6d ]
Player5 folds
Player6 raises [€0.30 EUR] Villain is a rock/nit
Hero calls [€0.30 EUR]
5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Jd, 6s ]
Player6 bets [€0.50 EUR]
Hero calls [€0.50 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [€1.25 EUR]
Player6 raises [€10.64 EUR]
Hero ??
Initially I'm like has he got AJ and going for massive overprotection against the two flush draws? He is so tight these could easily be any of the three oversets right?
 
Tabazaba said:
Awesome! well ive been playing and i guess im just having a down swing of some sort. The people on bovada play pretty crazy imo but the hands that have killed me are the ones that chase flushes, but just push after the flop. I have lost every all in (10 now) and i may or may not be just a little tilted😱 . I know thats smallish sample but to me its disheartening haha. Its not like they even shove with 2 overs or anything its shove i have a 4 draw. Any advice? am i not supposed to push because im ahead everytime i call. I have an over pair, pocket pair or trips everytime i call. So any incite to this? or just roll with it cause its killing my bank roll
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Yeah, it can get frustrating. As far as advice, you mean for handling tilt, or the specific hands you're dealing with? You can post some in here if you want some feedback on your opponents plays. We'd have to see how much equity you have versus your opponents range, so post your most questionable spots you've called in.
 
Figaroo2 said:
(Poker Stars) €10.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €12.66 EUR ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 1.6, Hands: 772
Seat 2: Player2 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 10, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 79
Seat 3: Player3 ( €8.42 EUR ) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 32
Seat 4: Player4 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 2.1, Hands: 721
Seat 5: Player5 ( €12.53 EUR ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 5, 3B: 1, AF: 0.7, Hands: 364
Seat 6: Player6 ( €11.44 EUR ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, Ag% 27, Hands: 813
Seat 8: Hero ( €24.26 EUR ) - VPIP:22 , PFR:18 , 3B:4.5 , Ag%:33 Hands:141
Seat 9: Player9 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 39, PFR: 4, 3B: 5, AF: 1.0, Hands: 104
Player3 posts small blind [€0.05 EUR].
Player4 posts big blind [€0.10 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 6c 6d ]
Player5 folds
Player6 raises [€0.30 EUR] Villain is a rock/nit
Hero calls [€0.30 EUR]
5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Jd, 6s ]
Player6 bets [€0.50 EUR]
Hero calls [€0.50 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [€1.25 EUR]
Player6 raises [€10.64 EUR]
Hero ??
Initially I'm like has he got AJ and going for massive overprotection against the two flush draws? He is so tight these could easily be any of the three oversets right?
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Well, him being that nitty doesn't make it a fist pump call, so you're not going to be far ahead of his range. It's really going to come down to whether he'd do this with AKo. If we can add that to his range at all, then it's a snap call. Otherwise, it might be a narrow fold if you have a range of: AA, AJ, JJ, 99, AdQd, AdKd. I think part of the question is how often is a nit going to jam trip aces or jacks on the turn too. It would otherwise seem like a pretty bad play by a nit who has to know he's always pressed to get action. He also has super low aggression, and with how tight he is and he raised in EP (if he's 7% overall he's probably only about 4% or less from EP), you can't really add KdQd, etc... type hands imho. So it's pretty close. You probably have at worse 35% equity and at best 60%. In game, real time, I'm probably calling, but not loving it. I'm hoping he's making a tard play sometimes with KK or something like that.
 
John A said:
Yeah, it can get frustrating. As far as advice, you mean for handling tilt, or the specific hands you're dealing with? You can post some in here if you want some feedback on your opponents plays. We'd have to see how much equity you have versus your opponents range, so post your most questionable spots you've called in.
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Do you know of a way to post them from bovada without having to write it out?
 
John A said:
Well, him being that nitty doesn't make it a fist pump call, so you're not going to be far ahead of his range. It's really going to come down to whether he'd do this with AKo. If we can add that to his range at all, then it's a snap call. Otherwise, it might be a narrow fold if you have a range of: AA, AJ, JJ, 99, AdQd, AdKd. I think part of the question is how often is a nit going to jam trip aces or jacks on the turn too. It would otherwise seem like a pretty bad play by a nit who has to know he's always pressed to get action. He also has super low aggression, and with how tight he is and he raised in EP (if he's 7% overall he's probably only about 4% or less from EP), you can't really add KdQd, etc... type hands imho. So it's pretty close. You probably have at worse 35% equity and at best 60%. In game, real time, I'm probably calling, but not loving it. I'm hoping he's making a tard play sometimes with KK or something like that.
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Thanks John I folded this hand I figured a nit just would not do this without something close to the nuts.
 
Figaroo2 said:
Thanks John I folded this hand I figured a nit just would not do this without something close to the nuts.
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I don't know if folding is correct imo. He bets flop you call, then checks to you when the ace hits the turn. A lot of players do this thinking if they bet they will lose you. I think when he shoves he thinks you have something that hit the flop and maybe you'll call not believing that he hit the ace. I've ran into this scenario a few times at 5 10 and majority of the time they are holding 2 pair or less.
 
Figaroo2 said:
Thanks John I folded this hand I figured a nit just would not do this without something close to the nuts.
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Id be 50/50 whether he has AJ or set.


On the flop did you consider a Raise and maybe represent a mediocre Jack, 78 or flush draw. With him being so tight and if he had an overpair he might have got it it there.😀

Although If he did have Aces would have been a bad suckout 🙁
 
John A said:
Do you have HM or PT? If so you can use our converter or HUD to write the hands, and then just click on them in your database to post.

http://acepokersolutions.com/Bodog_...ppens. Had a few hands i wanted to post to :(
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rhombus said:
Id be 50/50 whether he has AJ or set.


On the flop did you consider a Raise and maybe represent a mediocre Jack, 78 or flush draw. With him being so tight and if he had an overpair he might have got it it there.😀

Although If he did have Aces would have been a bad suckout 🙁
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Yeah, I think with someone so ubber tight, you have to get to an absurd range like this:

Ace Poker Drills Poker Equity Calculator
Board: 9d Jd 6s As

Equity Win Tie Hand Range
37.7273% 37.7273% 0% [ 6c6d ]
62.2727% 62.2727% 0% [ AA(100), AKs(100), AdQd(100), JJ(100), 99(100), AJs(100) ]


I think that's about all you're seeing and AJ might not even be in his range if he's probably only opening ~ 4% from where he was.
 
Tabazaba said:
John A said:
Do you have HM or PT? If so you can use our converter or HUD to write the hands, and then just click on them in your database to post.

http://acepokersolutions.com/Bodog_...and get some hands in your database to start.
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I tend to run into these kind of hands often and struggle for the best play, whether to reraise, shove or call or call and Bet if they check the turn. Or if i hit checkback turn and Bet river

Only had 2 hands on the villain as was Zoom and stats arent showing when playing at the moment

I know the 3Bet call was abit loose. Are suited connectors similar to smal pocket pairs in terms of setmining etc needing about 20/1

With 60c to call it was nearly 15/1 Effective stacks and with position thought OK.

On the flop when they lead out $1.20 should the maths affect the decision i.e for Fold Equity etc I know or think I have 12 outs with FD and gutshot if they have overpair, set or unlikely 2 pair (with possibly redraws)

So with the good equity I have i can fold out all AJ AK, 7s 6s 5s and possibly Js and Ts.

Should the decsion be based on stacks or is there an optimum line. Hindsight im thinking call then reevaluate


Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $9.75 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 39108
Seat 3: Player3 ( $37.82 USD ) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 50, 3B: 100, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
Player2 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9c Jc ]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$0.30 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$0.80 USD]
Hero calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 4c, 8c ]
Player3 bets [$1.20 USD]
Hero ??????????
 
Was this heads up?

Like everything, there's no set answer here. If someone is pretty aggressive, then I'll tend to raise so that I'm not stuck calling and folding a lot of turns. I make them make the big decision right away and it keeps me staying aggressive back at them. If they are more passive, I'm calling because there's a higher % of the time I'll get a check on the turn and can check back or bet. That's my most general rule.

If I don't know this info, then I tend to not get myself in those spots to begin with. 🙂 Since you did, then I'd lean towards calling because you don't know if you raise, if this guy can fold hands like JJ-99. He may slow down with AK etc.. if you just call and then you can bet the turn.
 
Thanks so rule of thumb depends on Aggressiveness of opponent.

PS Yes it was heads up

Aggro - they are going to bet with bigger range and because they are going to fold trash (and never call if draws come in). Also they will call the raise with a wider range

Passive - More likely to bet with something and more liable to pay off if a draw comes in when thy have top pair or overpair

I didnt know if there was going to be some maths involved i.e. my equity versus Effective stacks

My preferred line tends to be Raise when I have a draw or even a hand to protect against draws. I'll try and think more about the opponent in future as what you said makes better sense

Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $9.75 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 39108
Seat 3: Player3 ( $37.82 USD ) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 50, 3B: 100, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
Player2 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9c Jc ]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$0.30 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$0.80 USD]
Hero calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 4c, 8c ]
Player3 bets [$1.20 USD]
Hero raises [$5.37 USD]
Player3 raises [$33.20 USD]
Hero calls [$3.48 USD]
Player3 wins $25.55 USD
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Player3 shows [Ac, Kc ]
Hero shows [9c, Jc ]
Player3 wins $18.67 USD from main pot
 
Here was an interesting hand this evening, it appeared to really tilt my opponent as he fired off big time in the chat window and we had a series of confrontations afterwards. Don't really see he has a leg to stand on. After a quick peek at his stats I called the turn intending to take it away on the river. Did I just get lucky here? I thought I had it under control for the most part.

(Poker Stars) $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 25, 04:33:02 ET 2014
Table Hirose II (real money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $10.35 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 8.5, Hands: 306
Seat 2: Player2 ( $24.06 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 75
Seat 3: Player3 ( $25.00 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 4.6, Hands: 367
Seat 4: Player4 ( $31.37 USD ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 23, 3B: 12, AF: 2.2, Hands: 188
Seat 5: Player5 ( $25.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AG%:59. Hands: 182. fold to 3 bet 80%. 4 bet4%
Seat 6: Player6 ( $17.21 USD ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 125
Seat 7: Hero ( $51.03 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AG%27, Hands: 130 3bet% 7.5
Seat 8: Player8 ( $31.03 USD ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 4, AF: 6.3, Hands: 139
Player8 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc Qh ]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 raises [$0.70 USD]
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$2.45 USD]
Player8 folds
Player1 folds
Player5 raises [$5.70 USD] I don't fancy shoving here he is relatively unknown.
 Hero calls [$3.95 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Kc, As ]
Player5 checks bit surprised he checked with his ag%, not going to give him the chance to check raise me here. Once he doesn't bet here I put him on 99-JJ
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
Player5 bets [$3.90 USD] 100% donk lead after a missed c bet, plus his turn agg is 67% yet he only goes to showdown 18%, a little nervous he might have trip 10s
 Hero calls [$3.90 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ] perfect
 Player5 bets [$14.70 USD]
Hero calls [$14.70 USD]
Player5 shows [8h, 8d ]
Hero shows [Qc, Qh ]
Hero wins $48.35 USD from main pot
 
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John A said:
A quick question from the Vol. II workbook to get your poker juices going.

Question 2, pg 46. You open in the Co with 9s9d. A loose aggressive regular (VPIP 30 / PFR 25 / 3-bet 10%) in your game 3-bets you to 10 BBs from the button. The action folds back to you. What's your best course of action?

[ ] Call [ ] Fold [ ] 4-bet to 23 BBs [ ] 4-bet to 28 BBs
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Answer: 4-bet to 28 BBs. You want to increase your fold equity in this spot against a loose and aggressive opponent. If you can do this properly, then 4-bet and calling off your stack is the highest EV play long term. It all comes down to fold frequency, because you want to reduce the possibility of 4-bet calling to make the play as high of an EV play as possible. So the slightly larger 4-bet sizing will increase the likelihood of your opponent calling with some of their marginal hands that still have decent equity against you.


If you decrease your 4-bet sizing to 23, you will most likely increase your opponents calling range, so the EV of the play becomes slightly more unclear because there are too many variables to calculate properly.


However, if your opponent folds at least 70% of the time to your 4-bet, which is reasonable if you assume at least a 16% 3-bet frequency in this spot, then your 4-bet is profitable no matter what play your opponent makes. If they jam to your 4-bet, then you have at least 38% equity still against their range for an EV of just over +3. Your total EV for the play, assuming that your opponent either 5-bets or folds, and his calling range is generally strong if he does call is +7.08. You will win the 14.5 that it's the pot 70% of the time when you 4-bet and your opponent folds. 30% of the time they will jam, and you'll call the remaining 69 to win 104.5 and you'll have 38% equity versus their range.


14.5 (.7) + (104.5 (.38) - 69 (.62)) = +7.08


As opposed to saying that your opponent will only fold 50% of the time to the smaller 4-bet, call at least 10% and jam the rest of the time. In that case we end up with a negative EV solution over the long run.


14.5 (.4) + (104.5 (.38) - (74 (.62)) = -.37

Calling is not a good option against a good loose and aggressive opponent who can push you off a lot of hands. Against a weaker regular, or against any fish or more passive opponent, calling would become the higher EV play. There's an argument to be made about calling against an opponent's wide range in this spot. However in reality, most players struggle with navigating this spot OOP against a good and aggressive opponent.
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really want this workbook to come out lol This knowledge is what i crave and need in my poker game. So many times ive asked myself is this plus Ev if i do this or negitive if i do that. btw still cant figure out how to use the bovada catcher. Just a blue screen that says register cash games, hit it and nothing happens.
 
rhombus said:
Thanks so rule of thumb depends on Aggressiveness of opponent.

PS Yes it was heads up

Aggro - they are going to bet with bigger range and because they are going to fold trash (and never call if draws come in). Also they will call the raise with a wider range

Passive - More likely to bet with something and more liable to pay off if a draw comes in when thy have top pair or overpair

I didnt know if there was going to be some maths involved i.e. my equity versus Effective stacks

My preferred line tends to be Raise when I have a draw or even a hand to protect against draws. I'll try and think more about the opponent in future as what you said makes better sense

Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $9.75 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 39108
Seat 3: Player3 ( $37.82 USD ) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 50, 3B: 100, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
Player2 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9c Jc ]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$0.30 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$0.80 USD]
Hero calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 4c, 8c ]
Player3 bets [$1.20 USD]
Hero raises [$5.37 USD]
Player3 raises [$33.20 USD]
Hero calls [$3.48 USD]
Player3 wins $25.55 USD
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Player3 shows [Ac, Kc ]
Hero shows [9c, Jc ]
Player3 wins $18.67 USD from main pot
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3 bet to big? plus not having enough room behind to continue your semi bluff. Cause essentially you want to beable to continue on this hand, put pressure on the turn and then if missed flush put max pressure on the river assuming player can fold. If you both had 30$ i think that reraise would work because say he calls(obvious if he reraises you big to fold right?), you bet turn he calls again(on the flush draw) then you go all in on river..would take alot for him to call. I think this is right correct me if im wrong cause thats how i play it haha
 
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Figaroo2 said:
Here was an interesting hand this evening, it appeared to really tilt my opponent as he fired off big time in the chat window and we had a series of confrontations afterwards. Don't really see he has a leg to stand on. After a quick peek at his stats I called the turn intending to take it away on the river. Did I just get lucky here? I thought I had it under control for the most part.

(Poker Stars) $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 25, 04:33:02 ET 2014
Table Hirose II (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $10.35 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 8.5, Hands: 306
Seat 2: Player2 ( $24.06 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 75
Seat 3: Player3 ( $25.00 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 4.6, Hands: 367
Seat 4: Player4 ( $31.37 USD ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 23, 3B: 12, AF: 2.2, Hands: 188
Seat 5: Player5 ( $25.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AG%:59. Hands: 182. fold to 3 bet 80%. 4 bet4%
Seat 6: Player6 ( $17.21 USD ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 125
Seat 7: Hero ( $51.03 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AG%27, Hands: 130 3bet% 7.5
Seat 8: Player8 ( $31.03 USD ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 4, AF: 6.3, Hands: 139
Player8 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc Qh ]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 raises [$0.70 USD]
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$2.45 USD]
Player8 folds
Player1 folds
Player5 raises [$5.70 USD] I don't fancy shoving here he is relatively unknown.
 Hero calls [$3.95 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Kc, As ]
Player5 checks bit surprised he checked with his ag%, not going to give him the chance to check raise me here. Once he doesn't bet here I put him on 99-JJ
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
Player5 bets [$3.90 USD] 100% donk lead after a missed c bet, plus his turn agg is 67% yet he only goes to showdown 18%, a little nervous he might have trip 10s
 Hero calls [$3.90 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ] perfect
 Player5 bets [$14.70 USD]
Hero calls [$14.70 USD]
Player5 shows [8h, 8d ]
Hero shows [Qc, Qh ]
Hero wins $48.35 USD from main pot
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great hand, dont know the analysis tho haha
 
rhombus said:
Thanks so rule of thumb depends on Aggressiveness of opponent.

PS Yes it was heads up

Aggro - they are going to bet with bigger range and because they are going to fold trash (and never call if draws come in). Also they will call the raise with a wider range

Passive - More likely to bet with something and more liable to pay off if a draw comes in when thy have top pair or overpair

I didnt know if there was going to be some maths involved i.e. my equity versus Effective stacks

My preferred line tends to be Raise when I have a draw or even a hand to protect against draws. I'll try and think more about the opponent in future as what you said makes better sense
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imho low/medium suited connectors are trap hands when the flush hits..if you are calling raises with these try to make the straight rather than the flush. Don't chase the flush as you did here unless it is to the nut flush. Seriously almost once a session I see someone get outflushed just like this.
see my next.
 
(Poker Stars) $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 25, 04:26:01 ET 2014
Table Hirose II (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 8.5, Hands: 306
Seat 2: Player2 ( $26.51 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 75
Seat 3: Player3 ( $31.23 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, Ag%: 49, Hands: 367 (looks solid)
Seat 4: Player4 ( $29.09 USD ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 23, 3B: 12, AF: 2.2, Hands: 188 (bad lag)
Seat 5: Player5 ( $22.12 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 17.0, Hands: 182
Seat 6: Player6 ( $17.56 USD ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 130
Seat 7: Hero ( $44.71 USD ) - VPIP:18, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, Ag%27 Hands: 130
Seat 8: Player8 ( $31.28 USD ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 4, AF: 6.3, Hands: 139
Seat 9: Player9 ( $14.08 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 23
Player1 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac Tc ]
Player3 raises [$0.75 USD]
Player4 calls [$0.75 USD] this guy is a bad lag that I had already stacked which is what lured me in here, I would fold to utg here normally.
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Hero calls [$0.75 USD]
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 calls [$0.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 6s, 9c ]
Player2 checks
Player3 checks
Player4 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
Player2 checks
Player3 bets [$1.62 USD]
Player4 folds
Hero calls [$1.62 USD]
Player2 folds
** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
Player3 bets [$4.00 USD]
Hero calls [$4.00 USD] I know I lost some value not raising here but the board is paired, I was having difficulty putting him on a hand here raising from utg, ep opening 13% of hands, which puts plenty of pairs in his range including 55 66 77.
Player3 shows [Qc, Kc ]
Hero shows [Ac, Tc ]
Hero wins $13.69 USD from main pot
 
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Just bet the flop. With two overs and a backdoor flush draw, you may be able to steal it or narrow it down to one person. It would be better if there was one less player, but I'd still go ahead and take a stab.

Not loving the turn, but hard to rep anything when we don't bet the flop. On the river, yes the board pairs, but an 8, 9 or lower flush are definitely in his range. It's one of those spots that you will sometimes run into a boat, but most of the time it will be an 8 or lower flush, so you want to get max value.
 
Hey guys, had a lot of stuff to finish for college and a couple of festivals to visit so sorry for not participating as much. 🙂


Anyways, I noticed I often get into a situation I'm not quite sure how to play. Most often it hapens as I 3bet a regular (say 23/20, >40ish AF%) from the blinds vs. a steal. Then the flop comes something like A33 or a dry ace-high flop. I often have small pairs I 3bet with or some Kx here. Is cbetting here profitable?

They will obviously have their fair share of Ax here, however I will also be floated quite often here I suppose, and SPR is getting small as I 3bet large oop, so there isn't much room here either.
 
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