Figaroo2 said:I'll be around for the sweat Tuesday evening
Pacific, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
Hero (SB): $45.42 (151.4 bb)
BB: $45.35 (151.2 bb)
MP1: $29.70 (99 bb)
MP2: $15 (50 bb)
MP3: $13.37 (44.6 bb)
CO: $31.97 (106.6 bb)
BTN: $30 (100 bb) VPIP: 31, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 8.0, Hands: 77
Preflop: Hero is SB with AA
MP2 posts BB OOP, MP1 calls $0.30, MP2 checks, 2 folds, BTN raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, BTN calls $3.30
Flop: ($9.90) K5
7
(2 players)
Hero bets $7.42, BTN calls $7.42
Turn: ($24.74) 9(2 players)
Hero?
Villain was fishy, gets into a hand preflop and just bets, so I'm tempted to check call here but I don't want to give a free card to the diamond draw. Thoughts?
He only has $18.08 left behind
Just bet/call. I wouldn't shove though, even though you typically should. I'd just bet $11 and call a shove. It's stupid, but you end up getting weaker players to commit by doing this.
River sizing?
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $17.70 (70.8 bb)
BB: $54.32 (217.3 bb)
UTG+2: $11.47 (45.9 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $25.90 (103.6 bb) VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 4, AF: 3.8, hands: 135
MP3: $36.27 (145.1 bb)
CO: $34.56 (138.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25.25 (101 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with T
T
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($1.85) 9
5
9
(2 players)
MP2 bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90
Turn: ($3.65) 5
(2 players)
MP2 bets $2.70, Hero raises to $5.40, MP2 calls $2.70
River: ($14.45) T
(2 players)
MP2 checks,
Hero bets??
Pretty sure I'm up against an overpair here JJ QQ KK, but the pairs on the board don't do me any favours, I'm sort of hoping he can put me on a busted heart draw.
He is quite wide from EP (23%) and MP (15%) and only 17% wtsd.
I considered a bluffy looking shove, a value bet, or 25-30% and hope be spaz shoves.
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $17.70 (70.8 bb)
BB: $54.32 (217.3 bb)
UTG+2: $11.47 (45.9 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $25.90 (103.6 bb) VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 4, AF: 3.8, hands: 135
MP3: $36.27 (145.1 bb)
CO: $34.56 (138.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25.25 (101 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with T
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($1.85) 9
MP2 bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90
Turn: ($3.65) 5
MP2 bets $2.70, Hero raises to $5.40, MP2 calls $2.70
River: ($14.45) T
MP2 checks,
Hero bets??
Pretty sure I'm up against an overpair here JJ QQ KK, but the pairs on the board don't do me any favours, I'm sort of hoping he can put me on a busted heart draw.
He is quite wide from EP (23%) and MP (15%) and only 17% wtsd.
I considered a bluffy looking shove, a value bet, or 25-30% and hope be spaz shoves.
$10.35
, MP2 folds
Results: $14.45 pot ($0.65 rake)
Final Board: 9
5
9
5
T
MP2 mucked and lost (-$7.05 net)
Hero mucked T
T
and won $13.80 ($6.75 net)
Results: $14.45 pot ($0.65 rake)
Final Board: 9
MP2 mucked and lost (-$7.05 net)
Hero mucked T
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without looking at the hand... if it was a fishy weaker type player i believe the spaz shove is great.
this guy loves his hand given the call on the turn. id be betting around the 11-12 mark higher up since he loves his hand.
havnt looked at spoiler yet but what could be calling.
sticky 9s and 5s .. the board either helps u get stacks or foolds .......actually after saying that just shove. hes going to either fold easy or call max.. if he has 5 or a 9 he is calling and sticky aa or kk perhaps if hes tilting
could we min bet to entice a shove
this guy loves his hand given the call on the turn. id be betting around the 11-12 mark higher up since he loves his hand.
havnt looked at spoiler yet but what could be calling.
sticky 9s and 5s .. the board either helps u get stacks or foolds .......actually after saying that just shove. hes going to either fold easy or call max.. if he has 5 or a 9 he is calling and sticky aa or kk perhaps if hes tilting
could we min bet to entice a shove
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Figaroo2 said:Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $17.70 (70.8 bb)
BB: $54.32 (217.3 bb)
UTG+2: $11.47 (45.9 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $25.90 (103.6 bb) VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 4, AF: 3.8, Hands: 135
MP3: $36.27 (145.1 bb)
CO: $34.56 (138.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25.25 (101 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with TT
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($1.85) 959(2 players)
MP2 bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90
Turn: ($3.65) 5(2 players)
MP2 bets $2.70, Hero raises to $5.40, MP2 calls $2.70
River: ($14.45) T(2 players)
MP2 checks,
Hero bets??
Pretty sure I'm up against an overpair here JJ QQ KK, but the pairs on the board don't do me any favours, I'm sort of hoping he can put me on a busted heart draw.
He is quite wide from EP (23%) and MP (15%) and only 17% wtsd.
I considered a bluffy looking shove, a value bet, or 25-30% and hope be spaz shoves.
$10.35, MP2 folds
Results: $14.45 pot ($0.65 rake)
Final Board: 9595T
MP2 mucked and lost (-$7.05 net)
Hero mucked TTand won $13.80 ($6.75 net)
I'd lean towards a value bet. If you hadn't raised the turn, I'd consider an over bet shove, but given how the hand played out I think a decent value bet around $9-10 would be ideal. I think you're going to get some over pairs to fold no matter what though, and 9's are shipping to anything you bet so it doesn't matter.
John A said:
John what do you think of the turn min raise here?
I'm thinking possibly the hand is a little too strong for that play here? I know we talked about using it for weaker 2nd pair type hands but I also tend to use the play in spots like this where I have called preflop with hands like 88 99 TT and there are four under cards and especially If I think they might have flush draws to get that extra value from the draws.
I'm still trying to get to a cheap showdown with a one pair hand when I could be facing a higher over pair.
Sure enough here he checked the river as expected, but this time we hit our gin card which obviously isn't happening very often.
I can see how the shove would look better without the turn raise, much more like a float / busted draw then and be more likely to get calls from his AA KK and maybe QQ. I think JJ probably folds
Good fold or not? aggro opponent.
Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $23.67 (118.4 bb) VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 4.2, Hands: 182
BB: $20 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $32.91 (164.6 bb)
MP1: $31.86 (159.3 bb)
MP2: $21.10 (105.5 bb)
MP3: $21.80 (109 bb)
CO: $20 (100 bb)
BTN: $20 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K
A
Hero raises to $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60, 4 folds, SB calls $0.50, BB folds
Flop: ($2) J
K
2
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1, SB raises to $3.20, Hero calls $2.20, MP1 folds
Turn: ($9.40) A
(2 players)
SB bets $4.70, Hero calls $4.70
River: ($18.80) 3
(2 players)
SB bets $15.17 and is all-in, Hero folds, too much chance of a set or flush here for my liking, could we raise the turn? or just call and pick him off on non club rivers...what do you guys think?
Results: $18.80 pot ($0.94 rake)
Final Board: J
K
2
A
3
SB mucked and won $17.86 ($9.36 net)
Hero mucked K
A
and lost (-$8.50 net)
Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $23.67 (118.4 bb) VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 4.2, Hands: 182
BB: $20 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $32.91 (164.6 bb)
MP1: $31.86 (159.3 bb)
MP2: $21.10 (105.5 bb)
MP3: $21.80 (109 bb)
CO: $20 (100 bb)
BTN: $20 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K
Hero raises to $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60, 4 folds, SB calls $0.50, BB folds
Flop: ($2) J
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1, SB raises to $3.20, Hero calls $2.20, MP1 folds
Turn: ($9.40) A
SB bets $4.70, Hero calls $4.70
River: ($18.80) 3
SB bets $15.17 and is all-in, Hero folds, too much chance of a set or flush here for my liking, could we raise the turn? or just call and pick him off on non club rivers...what do you guys think?
Results: $18.80 pot ($0.94 rake)
Final Board: J
SB mucked and won $17.86 ($9.36 net)
Hero mucked K
Figaroo2 said:Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $23.67 (118.4 bb) VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 4.2, Hands: 182
BB: $20 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $32.91 (164.6 bb)
MP1: $31.86 (159.3 bb)
MP2: $21.10 (105.5 bb)
MP3: $21.80 (109 bb)
CO: $20 (100 bb)
BTN: $20 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with KA
Hero raises to $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60, 4 folds, SB calls $0.50, BB folds
Flop: ($2) JK2(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1, SB raises to $3.20, Hero calls $2.20, MP1 folds
Turn: ($9.40) A(2 players)
SB bets $4.70, Hero calls $4.70
River: ($18.80) 3(2 players)
SB bets $15.17 and is all-in, Hero folds, too much chance of a set or flush here for my liking, could we raise the turn? or just call and pick him off on non club rivers...what do you guys think?
Results: $18.80 pot ($0.94 rake)
Final Board: JK2A3
SB mucked and won $17.86 ($9.36 net)
Hero mucked KAand lost (-$8.50 net)
Judging by the XR on the flop, I'd have to go with QTc, since a set would be more prone in check-calling you all the way through...
I think the fold is good. I think he either got there on the turn or on the river. Wouldn't put him on a set though.
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i actually think ur sizing on the flop is too small... on a wet board and oop we want to bet much much more at least 3/4 pot size near pot.
i think a dry board in position we can bet half tho.
our villain doesnt have a flush here we block a lot of flushes out... he wishes he had qtc i dont see it... he has a set imo.. we block all his flushes out unless hes getting out of hand.
figs tight player utg we aint calling qtc oop against him no way. 🙂... guy has a set of jacks
the guy raises flop doesnt want flush. and if another broadway comes it hurts. so villain wants value on flop. shoves river so we cant bluff him off 🙂
also figs hands face up utg with 2 pair aj ak... maybe aqs is only hand hes afraid of
i think a dry board in position we can bet half tho.
our villain doesnt have a flush here we block a lot of flushes out... he wishes he had qtc i dont see it... he has a set imo.. we block all his flushes out unless hes getting out of hand.
figs tight player utg we aint calling qtc oop against him no way. 🙂... guy has a set of jacks
the guy raises flop doesnt want flush. and if another broadway comes it hurts. so villain wants value on flop. shoves river so we cant bluff him off 🙂
also figs hands face up utg with 2 pair aj ak... maybe aqs is only hand hes afraid of
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if fig had aa he wouldnt flat flop
so includinf everything i said he knows we know he dont have a flush and wants us to think hes bluffing but hes demi bluffing with his set and hopes we are sticky with 2p anyways ill shh now 🙂
last thing if he bad enough to have qt hes bad enough to have kj
given the jj scenerio and board its hard for someone to bluff cuz he knows we have skmething so given that... flop shouldve been a tight fold
so includinf everything i said he knows we know he dont have a flush and wants us to think hes bluffing but hes demi bluffing with his set and hopes we are sticky with 2p anyways ill shh now 🙂
last thing if he bad enough to have qt hes bad enough to have kj
given the jj scenerio and board its hard for someone to bluff cuz he knows we have skmething so given that... flop shouldve been a tight fold
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Some interesting points guys.
I think he is bad enough to call wide in the SB with QcJc QcTc JcTc and probably smaller suited connectors as well I'm definitely not discounting these hands 3 way and when it's only a single raise. (We know, don't we RHOM....that people like playing suited garbage out of the blinds multiway and I posted a hand last night where I called 3way on the button with JTs and stacked a AK 2pair hand)....so could he also have KJos, maybe but a little less likely Imo.
He is also AF +4 so we are never folding on the flop especially as we have the bd nut draws. He will be raising all his draws here.
Ricky don't assume that he won't be raising here with a set. If you look at the combos of sets there are 6 combos of JJ and 22 and only about the same number of suited combos. The point of playing aggressive is you keep them guessing by raising everything including your good hands.
Also Aces2 don't assume I would play AA any different to AK here, it's still just a 1 pair hand. If I had AA he would have heard about it on the turn.
The fact that he is willing to raise this flop into 2 players including an EP raiser still shows a good degree of strength. He either has a flush draw, a set or KJ here nearly always. Kx is pushing it a bit but even AK cannot be totally excluded although he probably raises this hand pre flop.
So once he shoves the river if he's bluffing he has the heart of a lion and good luck to the bloke.... the way the hand went down more often than not this is a hand stronger than top 2 pair, even aggros usually have it when this amount of bb gets shovelled in there at these stakes.
I think he is bad enough to call wide in the SB with QcJc QcTc JcTc and probably smaller suited connectors as well I'm definitely not discounting these hands 3 way and when it's only a single raise. (We know, don't we RHOM....that people like playing suited garbage out of the blinds multiway and I posted a hand last night where I called 3way on the button with JTs and stacked a AK 2pair hand)....so could he also have KJos, maybe but a little less likely Imo.
He is also AF +4 so we are never folding on the flop especially as we have the bd nut draws. He will be raising all his draws here.
Ricky don't assume that he won't be raising here with a set. If you look at the combos of sets there are 6 combos of JJ and 22 and only about the same number of suited combos. The point of playing aggressive is you keep them guessing by raising everything including your good hands.
Also Aces2 don't assume I would play AA any different to AK here, it's still just a 1 pair hand. If I had AA he would have heard about it on the turn.
The fact that he is willing to raise this flop into 2 players including an EP raiser still shows a good degree of strength. He either has a flush draw, a set or KJ here nearly always. Kx is pushing it a bit but even AK cannot be totally excluded although he probably raises this hand pre flop.
So once he shoves the river if he's bluffing he has the heart of a lion and good luck to the bloke.... the way the hand went down more often than not this is a hand stronger than top 2 pair, even aggros usually have it when this amount of bb gets shovelled in there at these stakes.
AK hand
This is the range of hands I'm putting him on for him to raise the flop, obviously all the suited hands are clubs. He is a 60/40 fav with two cards to come. Once the A hits on the turn the equity switches to 60/40 in our favour which is why was considering a click back raise on the turn to charge his draws and define his hand.
This is the range of hands I'm putting him on for him to raise the flop, obviously all the suited hands are clubs. He is a 60/40 fav with two cards to come. Once the A hits on the turn the equity switches to 60/40 in our favour which is why was considering a click back raise on the turn to charge his draws and define his hand.
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Figaroo2 said:Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $23.67 (118.4 bb) VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 4.2, Hands: 182
BB: $20 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $32.91 (164.6 bb)
MP1: $31.86 (159.3 bb)
MP2: $21.10 (105.5 bb)
MP3: $21.80 (109 bb)
CO: $20 (100 bb)
BTN: $20 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with KA
Hero raises to $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60, 4 folds, SB calls $0.50, BB folds
Flop: ($2) JK2(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1, SB raises to $3.20, Hero calls $2.20, MP1 folds
Fold the flop. Why are you calling here? That's one of those hands where you say to your opponent, "Ty for playing this so bad and allowing me to get away from TPTK". Take advantage of those spots.