*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

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Except EV doesn't tell the whole story, winning all those hands posted was definitely running good, exclude from 25 imo
 
This is what i meant when i said ran bad.


TAKE A LOOK:





Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

BB ($44.84)
UTG ($24.65)
MP ($45.08)
CO ($9.04)
Hero (Button) ($25.35)
SB ($25.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J
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, Q
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UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 6
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, 4
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, 7
heart.gif
(2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $4.88, UTG calls $3.88

Turn: ($11.61) Q
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.40, UTG calls $5.40

River: ($22.41) 7
diamond.gif
(2 players)
UTG bets $13.62 (All-In), Hero calls $13.62

Total pot: $49.65 | Rake: $2.48

Results below:
Hero had J
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, Q
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(flush, Queen high).
UTG had A
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, K
heart.gif
(flush, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG won $47.17



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (SB) ($25)
BB ($35.30)
UTG ($17)
MP ($47.76)
CO ($33.32)
Button ($19.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K
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, K
diamond.gif

UTG raises to $0.70, 2 folds, Button calls $0.70, Hero raises to $3.05, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.35, Button calls $2.35

Flop: ($9.40) 3
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, 10
diamond.gif
, 10
heart.gif
(3 players)
Hero bets $21.95 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls $16.10 (All-In)

Turn: ($41.60) 4
club.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($41.60) 3
spade.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $41.60 | Rake: $2.08

Results below:
Button had K
spade.gif
, 10
spade.gif
(full house, tens over threes).
Hero had K
heart.gif
, K
diamond.gif
(two pair, Kings and tens).
Outcome: Button won $39.52
 
and just for the record, the KK flop shove was meant go get any and all PP to call . wanted them to pout me on a bad attempt to bluff AK. Never expected villains to have a TEN in their range after flatting my huge 3bet(squeeze) pre.


And even if i bet smaller and they shoved or whatever,im getting it in here most of the time.(esp with preflop play and all)
 
duggs said:
Except EV doesn't tell the whole story, winning all those hands posted was definitely running good, exclude from 25 imo


^^^done.
 
woke up was reading your thread and got a little excited for your heater 😛

Glad duggs got you back in check 🙂

Don't pull a long_bong eh 😉 heehe
 
rather than shot taking NL25 on ftp why not xfer your bankroll over to pokerstars and shot take the 8cent/16cent NL tables? Just an idea >
 
Yea don't think vin can do that or I would have already suggested it,
 
vinylspiros said:

Good now personally I always set specific goals to reach before I unlock the next level, I tend to stick to them but if you don't think you will maybe post your moving up requirements here
 
Those hands seem fine, but yea this is why we want a roll behind us so we never have the fear of going busto
 
duggs said:
Yea don't think vin can do that or I would have already suggested it,
Okay 😱
duggs said:
Good now personally I always set specific goals to reach before I unlock the next level, I tend to stick to them but if you don't think you will maybe post your moving up requirements here
🙂 Yea do this Vin, I mean I do these things too just not in the forum, but I have a huge white bored above my poker desk for easy jotting down targets goals and ideas>>>
duggs said:
Those hands seem fine, but yea this is why we want a roll behind us so we never have the fear of going busto

😀
 
vinylspiros said:
and just for the record, the KK flop shove was meant go get any and all PP to call . wanted them to pout me on a bad attempt to bluff AK. Never expected villains to have a TEN in their range after flatting my huge 3bet(squeeze) pre.

This was a good plan as I've seen people play AK the same way you did with KK. You definitively ran bad.
 
Vin
You would probably die of boredom but 25nl full ring is considerably softer than 6max. There were plenty of fish still on the 25nl full ring tables. I took an early set over set cooler but managed to snag a couple of total fish to recover somewhat.
 
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long_bong said:
woke up was reading your thread and got a little excited for your heater 😛

Glad duggs got you back in check 🙂

Don't pull a long_bong eh 😉 heehe

Hehe, yea got a bit carried away yesterday after a month of solid playing within my limits.

duggs said:
Yea don't think vin can do that or I would have already suggested it,

Self exclusions lasts till JULY. lol

Figaroo2 said:
Vin
You would probably die of boredom but 25nl full ring is considerably softer than 6max. There were plenty of fish still on the 25nl full ring tables. I took an early set over set cooler but managed to snag a couple of total fish to recover somewhat.


Thnks for tip Figaro. Just gonna be sticking to 10NL for now.

Im kind of bored of grinding cash games though. It's like i played so much last month that i kinda feel i need to take a break cause the routine of grinding over and over can become a bit boring sometimes. Im obviously gonna keep grinding ,just not sure how much volume ill manage to get in this month.
 
Seriously K9????


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($28.09)
CO ($10)
Button ($10.35)
SB ($10.61)
Hero (BB) ($10.15)
UTG ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9
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, 9
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2 folds, CO raises to $0.27, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.17

Flop: ($0.59) 2
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, J
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, 9
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.38, Hero raises to $1.41, CO calls $1.03

Turn: ($3.41) 7
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(2 players)
Hero bets $2.62, CO calls $2.62

River: ($8.65) 8
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $5.85 (All-In), CO calls $5.70 (All-In)

Total pot: $20.05 | Rake: $1

Results below:
Hero had 9
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, 9
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(three of a kind, nines).
CO had K
spade.gif
, 9
heart.gif
(one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero won $19.05
 
LOL on river when he turned his hand into a bluff to rep the 9. Weekend players. Gotta love em.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

SB ($10.05)
BB ($10)
UTG ($17.58)
MP ($13.02)
Hero (CO) ($10)
Button ($11.59)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9
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, 9
spade.gif

UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.35) 8
spade.gif
, 5
heart.gif
, 7
spade.gif
(3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10, 1 fold

Turn: ($3.55) 6
diamond.gif
(2 players)
MP bets $2.20, Hero calls $2.20

River: ($7.95) 4
diamond.gif
(2 players)
MP bets $9.32 (All-In), Hero calls $6.30 (All-In)

Total pot: $20.55 | Rake: $1.02

Results below:
MP had K
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, K
club.gif
(straight, eight high).
Hero had 9
club.gif
, 9
spade.gif
(straight, nine high).
Outcome: Hero won $19.53
 
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($13.27)
MP ($5.30)
CO ($9.25)
Button ($11.16)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($6.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8
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, A
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UTG raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.15) A
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, 7
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, Q
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(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.70, MP calls $0.70, Hero ??????? I know this might sound kinda tight but is there any point in calling here versus 2 villains? I dont think i can ever be ahead here and backdoor draws and stuff are never gonna come around enough to make me continuing in this hand any profitable right?
 
A8s i think the best fold would be pre, but folding flop looks good
 
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8
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, A
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UTG raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

Agree totally with previous... utg raise has so many aces x that dominate you, fold pre here to utg. Play this hand if it opens from CO or button for value.
Having played fold on flop is right imo.
 
How many days take off from playing last month Viny?. At least take 1 day by week to not get burn out.

And lol to say you run bad.
​
 
vinylspiros said:
Im kind of bored of grinding cash games though. It's like i played so much last month that i kinda feel i need to take a break cause the routine of grinding over and over can become a bit boring sometimes. Im obviously gonna keep grinding ,just not sure how much volume ill manage to get in this month.

Vinyl, I KNOW you didn't just have a sick month then decide to cut volume? That can't be what I read can it? We don't put in hours upon hours day after day just for the sake of grinding. We put in the time and effort to move up and make money! Use the thought of possibly grinding like 25nl or even 50nl in a month or two as motivation and grind the eff out of it!

The name of the thread is GonnaCrushDAmicros, not GonnaCrushThenNotPlayAndGetRustyAgain lol.
 
/Logan/ said:
How many days take off from playing last month Viny?. At least take 1 day by week to not get burn out.




And lol to say you run bad.
​


Last month i put in a minimum of 3 hours per day almost every day. Just went on a 10 buy in downswing at 10NL due to playing kinda loose this weekend and i need to cool down and get my shit back together. Roll is at 270$ so im still good for 10NL. Just that it was at 370$ and it kinda influenced my game as i never had a 10 buy in downswing since i started this thing.




Blobweird123 said:
Vinyl, I KNOW you didn't just have a sick month then decide to cut volume? That can't be what I read can it? We don't put in hours upon hours day after day just for the sake of grinding. We put in the time and effort to move up and make money! Use the thought of possibly grinding like 25nl or even 50nl in a month or two as motivation and grind the eff out of it!

The name of the thread is GonnaCrushDAmicros, not GonnaCrushThenNotPlayAndGetRustyAgain lol.


I hear you BLOB. Your right.

No more pessimism. Thanks alot for your encouragement.
 
Here are a few examples of my biggest losing hands from this weekend.

I must admit, i feel like i overplayed some of these hands . Could be i was on a little tilt but in all honesty a few of these hands were very difficult to get away from.


If anyone has any thoughts on any of these, i would be glad to hear them.

Take a look:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($15.56)
CO ($11.83)
Button ($14.68)
SB ($14.38)
Hero (BB) ($10.74)
UTG ($17.86)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K
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, K
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4 folds, SB raises to $0.28, Hero raises to $0.84, SB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $4.16, SB raises to $14.38 (All-In), Hero calls $6.58 (All-In)

Flop: ($21.48) 4
spade.gif
, J
spade.gif
, J
diamond.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($21.48) 5
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($21.48) 8
heart.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21.48 | Rake: $1.07

Results below:
SB had 8
diamond.gif
, 8
spade.gif
(full house, eights over Jacks).
Hero had K
spade.gif
, K
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(two pair, Kings and Jacks).
Outcome: SB won $20.41


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($2.31)
SB ($4.92)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($11.75)
MP ($10)
CO ($11.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A
heart.gif
, A
spade.gif

1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.05, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.15) Q
spade.gif
, 5
heart.gif
, 7
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $1.65, MP calls $1.65

Turn: ($5.45) 4
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2, Hero raises to $7.30 (All-In), MP calls $5.30 (All-In)

River: ($20.05) 8
diamond.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.05 | Rake: $1

Results below:
Hero had A
heart.gif
, A
spade.gif
(one pair, Aces).
MP had 8
heart.gif
, 6
heart.gif
(straight, eight high).
Outcome: MP won $19.05


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

MP ($10)
CO ($12.63)
Button ($10)
SB ($9.85)
Hero (BB) ($11.59)
UTG ($4.38)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A
club.gif
, K
club.gif

3 folds, Button raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.70, Button calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.40) K
heart.gif
, 2
club.gif
, 7
club.gif
(3 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($5.40) 8
diamond.gif
(2 players)
SB bets $7.55 (All-In), Hero calls $7.55

River: ($20.50) 2
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.50 | Rake: $1.02

Results below:
SB had A
diamond.gif
, A
heart.gif
(two pair, Aces and twos).
Hero had A
club.gif
, K
club.gif
(two pair, Kings and twos).
Outcome: SB won $19.48


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

CO ($13.46)
Button ($4.64)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($10.23)
UTG ($22.85)
MP ($13.42)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8
spade.gif
, 8
heart.gif

3 folds, Button raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) J
spade.gif
, 9
club.gif
, 8
club.gif
(3 players)
Hero bets $0.57, BB raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9.80 (All-In), BB calls $8.30

Turn: ($20.20) J
heart.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.20) Q
diamond.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.20 | Rake: $1.01

Results below:
Hero had 8
spade.gif
, 8
heart.gif
(full house, eights over Jacks).
BB had 9
spade.gif
, 9
heart.gif
(full house, nines over Jacks).
Outcome: BB won $19.19


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

SB ($6.22)
BB ($10)
UTG ($10)
MP ($13.91)
CO ($7.09)
Hero (Button) ($10.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A
diamond.gif
, A
spade.gif

1 fold, MP raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, MP calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.65) 6
club.gif
, 3
diamond.gif
, 8
heart.gif
(2 players)
MP bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.85) J
heart.gif
(2 players)
MP bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60

River: ($8.05) J
diamond.gif
(2 players)
MP bets $3.40, Hero raises to $6.20 (All-In), MP calls $2.80

Total pot: $20.45 | Rake: $1.02

Results below:
Hero had A
diamond.gif
, A
spade.gif
(two pair, Aces and Jacks).
MP had 8
club.gif
, J
club.gif
(full house, Jacks over eights).
Outcome: MP won $19.43


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($26.79)
UTG ($18.83)
Hero (MP) ($10.24)
CO ($8.27)
Button ($2.44)
SB ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10
heart.gif
, 10
diamond.gif

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 10
spade.gif
, A
heart.gif
, 6
heart.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.65) Q
club.gif
(2 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.86, BB calls $1.46

River: ($4.37) Q
diamond.gif
(2 players)
BB bets $1.30, Hero raises to $8.08 (All-In), BB calls $6.78

Total pot: $20.53 | Rake: $1.02

Results below:
BB had A
club.gif
, Q
spade.gif
(full house, Queens over Aces).
Hero had 10
heart.gif
, 10
diamond.gif
(full house, tens over Queens).
Outcome: BB won $19.51
 
So basically at around 12k hands, i go into a freefall (that includes all the hands i posted above) and im lucky i didnt crash and burn.Gonna start 10NL all over. Lets see how it goes.


All my 10NL stuff so far.


ScreenHunter 202 Mar 03 2112

ScreenHunter 201 Mar 03 2112
 
First reaction is that most of those are bad beats that you were never getting away from (and perhaps shouldn't in a few) Looks like lady variance has her claws into you.
1st KK hand v the 88, shocking play by the villian...just plain unlucky, nothing wrong in the way you played it, suspected I might be seeing AA in the spoiler after a 5bet shove . laughed when I saw 88 shows why you shouldn't fold KK pre.

2nd AA v 86 what is he doing calling a 3bet with 8-6!?. impossible to range him here on this hand...stinks of nut flush draw or a set when he calls with no odds. Not surprised you checked the turn can't see him not calling again.
Re-raise all-in is ambitious but I don't blame you if you put him on a flush draw. its spewing against sets though...could maybe have called the turn check folded river to save half a buy in. no way Id ever put him on that straight though. sick hand, these are the ones that put me on tilt.

3rd AK v AA maybe re raise on the flop looking to get it in, unlucky to run into AA with your A blocker and unlucky not to hit the flush, going to lose this one 2 times out of three.

4th 88 v 99 standard cooler, perhaps call, he has stuck in a big raise and you could already be losing to a kq straight. Always getting stacked here though once board pairs.

5th AA v J8, fish got lucky, another dumb shit call oop with a crap hand....once he bets large on the turn it looks like a set on such an unconnected board. impossible to put him on J8. Not surprised you feel like quitting for a while.

6th 10 10 v AQ set on flop, runner runner bad beat.
Not an awful lot you could have done, just bad runnung....batten down the hatches and wait for the clouds to clear.
 
Figaroo2 said:
First reaction is that most of those are bad beats that you were never getting away from (and perhaps shouldn't in a few) Looks like lady variance has her claws into you.
1st KK hand v the 88, shocking play by the villian...just plain unlucky, nothing wrong in the way you played it, suspected I might be seeing AA in the spoiler after a 5bet shove . laughed when I saw 88 shows why you shouldn't fold KK pre.

2nd AA v 86 what is he doing calling a 3bet with 8-6!?. impossible to range him here on this hand...stinks of nut flush draw or a set when he calls with no odds. Not surprised you checked the turn can't see him not calling again.
Re-raise all-in is ambitious but I don't blame you if you put him on a flush draw. its spewing against sets though...could maybe have called the turn check folded river to save half a buy in. no way Id ever put him on that straight though. sick hand, these are the ones that put me on tilt.

3rd AK v AA maybe re raise on the flop looking to get it in, unlucky to run into AA with your A blocker and unlucky not to hit the flush, going to lose this one 2 times out of three.

4th 88 v 99 standard cooler, perhaps call, he has stuck in a big raise and you could already be losing to a kq straight. Always getting stacked here though once board pairs.

5th AA v J8, fish got lucky, another dumb shit call oop with a crap hand....once he bets large on the turn it looks like a set on such an unconnected board. impossible to put him on J8. Not surprised you feel like quitting for a while.

6th 10 10 v AQ set on flop, runner runner bad beat.
Not an awful lot you could have done, just bad runnung....batten down the hatches and wait for the clouds to clear.


Figaro. thanks a bunch for going over the hands. I read your reply and pretty much agree. Most of these bad beats were against donks that just got lucky. Honestly ,last month after playing more than 50K hands, i never remeber taking so many of them in a row. I'm honestly not tilted as these are the same guys that will be giving me their chips sooner or later.

It's just that i don't want it to continue to the point where it becomes concerning.


Nevertheless, since i posted those hands i won a couple of buy ins and fell like i have gotten my MOJO back.


It's just a matter of time till i beat the limit. Going to be playing 10NL this entire month and nothing else until my roll is above 500$.


I've noticed that although during the weekends, the games are much softer and its a great opportunity to grow our roll at a faster pace, sometimes when these fish hit bizarre combo's , it's kind of hard to get away from hands or put them on a range.


while during the week, and especially morning, there are more regs at the table and i feel as though i play better against regs or thinking players than i do against fish because some of the time fish are more "unpredictable" than regs, so game flow is kind of smoother.


anyways, thanks alot for your post and will be posting some good spots if they come up.
 
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