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ok guys. thanks alot for your opinions and help. much appreciated.

I obviously dont have many hands in my database where i folded kings pre.

This was one of the very few times i did it and it worked out well so i was happy and posted it to act cool. 🙂🙂🙂


Now that thats out of the way, back to the grind..... good luck us!
 
Update on 2NL.

Went on a 7.5K hand breakeven stretch.( from 15k hands till 22k hands) managed to grind through it. will be back tomorrow for more upswing hopefully.

22k hands so far bb/100 obviously dropped cause of variance. gonna stop the 2nl at 50k hands and then move up to 5nl where everyone's a baller apparently.lol


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happy Easter everyone!!!!


Gonna be heading off to summer house for a week for some vacation time by the beach, where there's no internet , no laptop and no grinding. (thank god).

catch everyone next week.



Gonna get back to the grind on the 8th of may when the SCOOP begins. Theres gonna be some killer tournaments that im dying to play.


have a good one. 🙂🙂🙂
 
Gonna deposit 100 today and jump straight into 5NL.

Gonna post progress for the very few people who give a crap. Back to crushing.(hopefully)

Moving up at 200$ and skies the limit after that.
 
I finally got to put in some "grindtime" today.

Ive noticed that 5 & 10NL zoom on stars is not what it used to be.

Apparently everyones a baller nowadays and there are very few passive fish in the zoompool. (YES even in the micros!!)


Anyways. I managed to put in 2K hands which was pretty good and i really enjoyed it.

I had to play like tha aggrodonk that i am and try to squeeze money out of the juicy spots that came up.


heres my stats and stuff. Posting them mostly for Fig, who likes my aggro lines. LOL
Here you go FIG.


Good luck us zoom freaks.


Im going to put in alot more volume tomorrow. This is only zoom 5NL and 10NL. 15$ profit from the 5NL and the rest is 10NL.

Stats

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red line,green line,orange line all looking fine. It's blue line that i dont like. Im making more from getting folds than from getting value from my good hands. Is this a leak? Whats ur opinion fig?
 
vinylspiros said:
red line,green line,orange line all looking fine. It's blue line that i dont like. Im making more from getting folds than from getting value from my good hands. Is this a leak? Whats ur opinion fig?
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That blue line is actually still pretty good considering your aggro play. You'll never get it as high as the rest, since you're going to lose several showdowns when an opponent decides to call your bluff.
 
Was thinking i need to give them better prices when im nutted or maybe check to induce or something so that i can get paid off better for the times that i do have the best hand.
 
Spiros mate there is more than one way to play poker which your stats so obviously demonstrate.
You can win playing aggro and you can win playing passive and trapping the aggros.
The highest win rates should though come from balanced play, we talked about that before, aggro and passive at the right moments and keeping our opponents off balance.
A win rate of 35bb/100 is a great strike rate and I reckon you will always start off sessions with these sorts of win rates no matter what the buy in, its whether it's sustainable as 'the Borg' (the playing field) adapts to your stats, that's questionable.
I note your wtsd% is at 26, that's good, this means you aren't getting too sticky yourself and know when to release a hand.
A lot of it is not making the big mistakes and this comes from correct player profiling and for you, I suggest diligent post session note taking.
I would suggest it's even more important for you with your style to revisit the session and flag those players who have adapted and are calling you down, or are just plain calling stations.
Letting a hand go and saving half a stack against these players will I think massively boost your win rate. Conversely you know you can push for big value against these players when you actually do have a hand. This is when your blue line (money won at showdown) will improve.
You are playing a lot of hands, perhaps just reigning it in a touch out of position might help. as well
I remember you said you don't particularly look at the stats of the opponents that much, hopefully you are now and if you ignore this area then I don't think your game will grow very fast.
If you have some stats on players then use them, in a game of incomplete information, you can use this information to assist you in making the best decisions.
As you so rightly pointed out previously, you often don't need a pile of stats to know where its headed.
All astute players instinctively know aggression is good and gives you two ways to win the pot. SS2 "take it Doyle"
High aggression doesn't come easily to most players, including me, as you know as I'm basically a passive analyst.
I think your levels of aggression are capable of making you a world class player if you can learn to reign it in at the right moments and make those player reads.
 
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Its just really annoying to lose value when we have a set versus villains 2 pairs. So sometimes we try and give them a better price in order for us to get paid when we are ahead, only to realise that we could have gotten called even if we shoved.
 
vinylspiros said:
Its just really annoying to lose value when we have a set versus villains 2 pairs. So sometimes we try and give them a better price in order for us to get paid when we are ahead, only to realise that we could have gotten called even if we shoved.
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Mate its very important that you fast play your big hands in the same way you play your normal bluffs especially at the point when the field is adapting and starting to call you down.
 
Fig. Thanks for the reply. Your posts are really a joy to read. I hear everything your saying and i will keep all of it in mind. Also the part about seeing who calls down lighter and is adjusting to my style is important. Will be looking into that. Will also be looking at biggest losing hands and see how they played out. There was a lot of AA versus set situations where i got stacked.

I almost always get stacked when i have AA versus villains with sets. If they have a flush , ill let it go but sets( although i know they DO have one) , are harder to get away from. When you raise utg with AA and flop comes 3 bricks and you cbet and they raise you, you know its worst case set, best case 2 pairs . Esp if board is 892 or K56 rainbow or whatever. One pair hands are always calling and sets and 2 pairs are always raising.

I still cant get away from over pairs in these situations.


Anyways. We really have to set up a sweat. Your feedback is really helpful and i need someone with square logic to help me control my spewiness.


Again thanks for all the advice and will be posting again tomorrow after the grind to let you know how it went.

The 42 vpip i posted today is obviously gonna go down. It was just fun playing almost everysingle hand and managing to win over a 2K sample.


There are different ways to win in this game and the key is find balance in our own game and try to not deviate from our plan over a large sample.

tilt control is key imo. And its one of the most important things that i personally try to control.

Winners tilt is just as bad as loosers tilt imo.
 
Figaroo2 said:
Mate its very important that you fast play your big hands in the same way you play your normal bluffs especially at the point when the field is adapting and starting to call you down.
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Yea i know. And i totally agree. But how are we gonnaget paid if were fast playing against someone with air. Or if we are fast playing against someone with the nuts.
 
Another point i want to make . It looks to me like alot of people are playing NLHE like its PLO.

What i mean is they are playing wayyyyyyyy too tight and arent eilling to GII unless they have an overpair or 2 pairs or a set or watevs.

This is very good info to have and we can get alot of folds if we need to get them.


Example. Everyones gonna call a cbet. Either they have tptk or are just floating on a relatively dru flop to keep us honest. The key is to fire big on the turn.

The turn is where im getting the majority of folds when i need them. If you fire big on flop and big on turn, ive noticed im getting a ton of folds. If you just expect them to fold on the flop. Its never gonna happen. Imo the turn c bet is the key to getting the required folds. Problem is if we are bluffing and they call turn, its really important to read the board correctly and figure out if they are drawing, or made already before the river.


If we just c bet flop.check turn and fire river. They are always calling with anything since alot of people translate turn checks as weakness or pot control. If we fire flop and then turn it looks like we are preparing for a river shove so anything below 2p and sets are mostly folding. Even fd's are folding when we give them the wrong price.

Just some thoughts. Could be wrong. Im just thinking out loud.


And keep in min this line works better if we have 3bet pre. Thats why i have like 20percent 3bet pre.

It really does wonders. 3 betting pre and getting flatted is a dream come true for me. Esp if im in position but it really doesnt feel like position matters as long as they flat our 3bet pre. The flat alone is a sign of weakness and we can alaways take it from there according to what comes on the board.
 
vinylspiros said:
But how are we gonnaget paid if were fast playing against someone with air. Or if we are fast playing against someone with the nuts.
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Lol if I knew the answer to that I'd be a rich man,

That's the point though of having the stats, to give you the clues.
High fold to cbet and they are hanging around = slow down
High fold to cbet = bet any two cards
Low WTSD% and they are hanging around = slow down
High WTSD% and they are hanging around = bet strong with your value hands and don't bluff
Multiway and they are leading into you = slow down
You know all this though right?
Team sweat in 10 mins
 
Omg. I cant. Im not home right now. Yomorrow will be available at 3:30 pm for a few hours. And then at 10 pm for as long as u can.
 
Figaroo2 said:
Lol if I knew the answer to that I'd be a rich man,

That's the point though of having the stats, to give you the clues.
High fold to cbet and they are hanging around = slow down
High fold to cbet = bet any two cards
Low WTSD% and they are hanging around = slow down
High WTSD% and they are hanging around = bet strong with your value hands and don't bluff
Multiway and they are leading into you = slow down
You know all this though right?
Team sweat in 10 mins
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Yea i know it. But i dont have wtsd in my hud. Do u?
 
I use HM2 when I put my cursor on the HUD and the full stats pop up its always on display in the top right hand corner. WTSD% is an important stat for me, I always use it to help my decision as to whether to bluff on the river

Watched Oreo play tonight 100nl Bovada and Black Chip poker with John A commenting, Its so informative, free training man you gotta try hook up on Tuesdays. I will play tomorrow evening and leave my Skype on when I'm playing.
 
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