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6-max game online. It’s folded around to the button who makes it $7. You three-bet to $23 and he calls. The flop comes 5♠ 8♣ K♦ and you bet $30; he makes it $85. I'm holding two black Tens and i'm sitting on SB.
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What should you do?
 
You should fold. If you call here you have to basically guess if you have the best hand or not on the turn, and we do not want to be playing like that. He has shown a lot of aggression and can beat you with a wide variety of hands like sets and any Kx. And he will often continue on the turn if you check to him which puts you in an even more difficult spot. Also you don't have position on the opponent. Fold and move on. Wait for a better spot.
 
Tricky123bet said:
You should fold. If you call here you have to basically guess if you have the best hand or not on the turn, and we do not want to be playing like that. He has shown a lot of aggression and can beat you with a wide variety of hands like sets and any Kx. And he will often continue on the turn if you check to him which puts you in an even more difficult spot. Also you don't have position on the opponent. Fold and move on. Wait for a better spot.
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NBDownOng said:
6-max game online. It’s folded around to the button who makes it $7. You three-bet to $23 and he calls. The flop comes 5♠ 8♣ K♦ and you bet $30; he makes it $85. I'm holding two black Tens and i'm sitting on SB.
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What should you do?
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My first suggestion would be to check/call. In terms of ranges, we have a decently strong hand from our SB 3betting range for this board, so if we're always bet folding everything but a king here then that's pretty exploitable especially in BUT .vs. Blind situations. Normally if you have a middiling pair on a dry board like this, we're either way ahead or way behind our opponent. I personally would check/call and try to bluff catch, and you should also consider checking strong top pairs on dry boards like this to balance out the times you want to check/call with medium strength pairs like this. This is how I approach these situations and it's been pretty profitable for me so far.
 
TCashMoney19 said:
My first suggestion would be to check/call. In terms of ranges, we have a decently strong hand from our SB 3betting range for this board, so if we're always bet folding everything but a king here then that's pretty exploitable especially in BUT .vs. Blind situations. Normally if you have a middiling pair on a dry board like this, we're either way ahead or way behind our opponent. I personally would check/call and try to bluff catch, and you should also consider checking strong top pairs on dry boards like this to balance out the times you want to check/call with medium strength pairs like this. This is how I approach these situations and it's been pretty profitable for me so far.
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I agree with that and disagree that it is so easy to fold as played. Why is he raising you on such a dry board? Shouldn't he be worried that you could have AK? If he has a set, what turn card is he afraid of? His hand looks like basically exactly AK or air, in which case I would probably call again unless I had more info on his playing style.
 
Micro Maven said:
I agree with that and disagree that it is so easy to fold as played. Why is he raising you on such a dry board? Shouldn't he be worried that you could have AK? If he has a set, what turn card is he afraid of? His hand looks like basically exactly AK or air, in which case I would probably call again unless I had more info on his playing style.
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Exactly my thoughts, if Villain really did have AK here then he played it pretty terribly. He should know that if SB does have a K, he's going to stack him on later streets anyway on such a dry board and raising now with AK eliminates all SB bluffs or exactly what Hero had here (pocket 10s).

On the flip side, I know there are many players here that are capable of bluff raising this flop with nothing. Their thought process, from what I can garner, is if SB doesn't have a king how can he call a raise? Therefore, I should raise with my 89o. Which makes bet/folding pocket 10s in this spot super exploitable, against most competent opponents.

I really prefer a check call here, at least through the turn. We have a range advantage on this board, being the preflop 3bettor and if Villain is capable of triple barrel bluffing anything but Kx in this spot then good on him. This is also why I advocate check/calling strong Kx on a strong board like this against aggressive opponents, as it's more profitable sometimes then just going bet/bet/bet. Aggressive opponents can't help themselves sometimes, and will triple barrel with a lot of random crap if they sense weakness, especially in blind versus button situations. It's all player dependent imo, but this I feel is the less exploitable line.
 
You describe the distribution of almost nothing, too little information no information about their opponents ' statistics, I understand that you may iraeta without XM2 and poker tracker 4
can only advise to buy one of these programs and understand them.
 
NBDownOng said:
6-max game online. It’s folded around to the button who makes it $7. You three-bet to $23 and he calls. The flop comes 5♠ 8♣ K♦ and you bet $30; he makes it $85. I'm holding two black Tens and i'm sitting on SB.
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What should you do?
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easy fold
Because he shows that he has a high pair in his hand, and will not drop his hand
 
NBDownOng said:
6-max game online. It’s folded around to the button who makes it $7. You three-bet to $23 and he calls. The flop comes 5♠ 8♣ K♦ and you bet $30; he makes it $85. I'm holding two black Tens and i'm sitting on SB.
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What should you do?
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Ok, is not a hard situation for me ,the main poin is to act fast in this case & think fast cuz it could work as a bluff, even tough u hold a strong hand.But till here i was the agresor so it will be a bet control (but not so obvios thas a bet control ~30-40$) or a fast check & hope for turn & river to be by your side.
 
Fold.
Unless you know him to be a maniac/fish you are beat.
1. BU can be stealing but if he knows to steal he might know that openers from SB are wide.
2. reraise from his might be a bluff but! you do have to think about what can he be raise-calling here with to. it's rally unlikely that he hsa trash PRF.
3. floting here is a questionable endeavour since you ar putting to much in the pot hopping he has nothing/catching thous 2 outs.
4. 1 of the importaing things you did not sais his stats
5. reraise is ussualy a strong play not matter were you play. Calling every bluff (if it is) is EV- any way you look at it.
6. even thou PRF he could be calling with filgh like QTo you should think what kind of hands could he be calling and than reraise post flop.
 
Easy fold , ak, kq, kj ,kt,J's etc ... many hands can beat you !
You only can beat 67 / pair of 5 / 8
or bluffing..

NBDownOng said:
6-max game online. It’s folded around to the button who makes it $7. You three-bet to $23 and he calls. The flop comes 5♠ 8♣ K♦ and you bet $30; he makes it $85. I'm holding two black Tens and i'm sitting on SB.
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What should you do?
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Fold, but I'm the fish who would call caus of how fishy it looks.. On a bluff I feel like however I'm more likely to just call flop and when you check turn bet?.. However if its BOL, I agree with the raise bex if he just flats I'm sure they will splash a 10 on the turn
 
I have to agree with everyone who recommends fold. Calling out of position with no idea where you are in the hand will most likely end up with you losing.
 
If this is the game for cash I would have to fold. In all other cases, it depends on the importance of play. In freeroll is possible to go further.
 
fold to the raise... as played i dont mind the play until he rsises.

Though why are we raising so high pre on a 3bet??? we raise $23 and then lead out only $30...

Think of it this way if you had AK and he had KQ how much would you want to raise?

$30 just screams im weak... i want u to fold. but if u call i can get out cheap
 
NBDownOng said:
6-max game online. It’s folded around to the button who makes it $7. You three-bet to $23 and he calls. The flop comes 5♠ 8♣ K♦ and you bet $30; he makes it $85. I'm holding two black Tens and i'm sitting on SB.
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What should you do?
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He very well has a king. Kx I would think to be a very playable in 6 handed play. There's $46 at least in the pot, plus another $30 is $76...He puts in $85, about a pot sized bet, making it at least $161...Sounds like his hand has hit but he is vulnerable. 85-30 is 55. You are getting almost 3 to 1 on that 55. He could also have bottom or middle pair although that would suggest he only call and not raise... With pocket 10 it seems you have to fold or gamble. Depends on your stack. It is cash but do you want to chase two outs? I would have a hard time doing it but it seems like a fold. I would want to see one more street but its not worth it.
 
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