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Sorry if this doesn't seem like much of a question, I want advice but not really sure what sort of advice I'm seeking, just this has been on my mind for awhile now. Basically, how much can one incorporate live reads into their game, if that makes sense. I'll post some examples to explain what I mean:
I was at a live venue and I was in late position with AKs and there were no limpers. I raised it 3 BB and the small blind called; this player is tight by local standards, loose by online standards, the loosest I ever seem him limp is Q6 mid position.
The flop comes K99. he checks, I bet 1/2 pot, he calls. Can't remember what the turn was but it wasn't significant; I bet 1/2 pot again and he gos all-in; I was getting about 1-2 on my money to call and that hand would cripple my stack by about 40% if I lost. I immediately, and correctly put him on A9, I couldn't see him making that play with any other hand. So I said to him something like, "you've got A9 hey?" and he replied with something like, "I could have this that blah blah" Basically declaring that he had the A9 yet didn't want me to think that so he told me a bunch of hands he could have had.
I think this hand was a clear fold but I still stupidly called him; after I seen it I was kicking myself, all the pieces of the puzzle fit; this is too common with me, I realise the tells and the mistake I made after the hand.
Another hand which went more on a physical tell; I can't remember exactly what I had as it was awhile back but basically I had AQ or AK and mid-early, the BB called. The flop came AJJ and when the player seen the 3rd J he visibly kind of jumped for a split second. However, I completely ignored this and made my normal continuation bet, and called his shove as I was getting 1-3 on my money, and of course, he had KJ
Another time I had AA in the BB, there was a person who had been raising a fair bit preflop and followed it up with a c-bet every time; because of this I elected to call and check raise the flop. The flop came KJJ and he immediately grabbed his drink and I noticed that his hands were shacking, yet I ignored this as after all, I have AA, and lost to his 3 of a kind, I commented on his shacking hands and someone else said something about old age and I foolishly believed them, sigh.
And the final example: Basically I had QQ in the BB, a tightish passive player that barely spoke and hardly raised put in a decentish raise on the button and the SB called, I decided to push; I ignored his betting patterns but most of all, I ignored the fact that he became very talkative in that hand, more talkative throughout the whole night, so my QQ lost against his AA.
So what do you guys think? I've got a bit more to say but I don't want to influence your responses or bore you to death
I was at a live venue and I was in late position with AKs and there were no limpers. I raised it 3 BB and the small blind called; this player is tight by local standards, loose by online standards, the loosest I ever seem him limp is Q6 mid position.
The flop comes K99. he checks, I bet 1/2 pot, he calls. Can't remember what the turn was but it wasn't significant; I bet 1/2 pot again and he gos all-in; I was getting about 1-2 on my money to call and that hand would cripple my stack by about 40% if I lost. I immediately, and correctly put him on A9, I couldn't see him making that play with any other hand. So I said to him something like, "you've got A9 hey?" and he replied with something like, "I could have this that blah blah" Basically declaring that he had the A9 yet didn't want me to think that so he told me a bunch of hands he could have had.
I think this hand was a clear fold but I still stupidly called him; after I seen it I was kicking myself, all the pieces of the puzzle fit; this is too common with me, I realise the tells and the mistake I made after the hand.
Another hand which went more on a physical tell; I can't remember exactly what I had as it was awhile back but basically I had AQ or AK and mid-early, the BB called. The flop came AJJ and when the player seen the 3rd J he visibly kind of jumped for a split second. However, I completely ignored this and made my normal continuation bet, and called his shove as I was getting 1-3 on my money, and of course, he had KJ
Another time I had AA in the BB, there was a person who had been raising a fair bit preflop and followed it up with a c-bet every time; because of this I elected to call and check raise the flop. The flop came KJJ and he immediately grabbed his drink and I noticed that his hands were shacking, yet I ignored this as after all, I have AA, and lost to his 3 of a kind, I commented on his shacking hands and someone else said something about old age and I foolishly believed them, sigh.
And the final example: Basically I had QQ in the BB, a tightish passive player that barely spoke and hardly raised put in a decentish raise on the button and the SB called, I decided to push; I ignored his betting patterns but most of all, I ignored the fact that he became very talkative in that hand, more talkative throughout the whole night, so my QQ lost against his AA.
So what do you guys think? I've got a bit more to say but I don't want to influence your responses or bore you to death