advice for the ultimate recreational player?

gritgar · Dec 20, 2011

Suppose you meet someone who is too lazy to study or feels like studying poker is too much work. She wants to learn a few basic concepts and then just go play. Also suppose this person isn't bothered by losing and never tilts. What advice would you give her?

I'd probably advise play money. But failing that, I'd advise:

1. The lowest possible stakes
2. A BR of let's say 5,000 buyins
3. Single tabling only and only play speed tables
4. Chat incessantly during play
5. Play when she feels like it as opposed to keeping track of hot and cold runs
6. The only stop loss is when it's not fun right now
7. Favor kitchen table games

Anything else you guys can think of, or do you disagree with anything I've got listed?

TheKAAHK · Dec 20, 2011

I'd give her a starting hand chart, a primer on position and a wish for good luck. If she's half smart she'll be able to figure out the rest from there.

tcummo · Dec 20, 2011

freerolls ?

TheKAAHK · Dec 20, 2011

And is the "her" you are referring to you wife or girlfriend? Because that changes things.

gritgar · Dec 20, 2011

TheKAAHK said:
And is the "her" you are referring to you wife or girlfriend? Because that changes things.

Nope, just a casual friend who got curious about poker from watching me play and then gagged on all of the demands made on a serious poker player's time. I made it clear to her that it's extremely unlikely she'll be profitable unless she puts in a lot of work, and she shrugged and said she doesn't care.

baudib1 · Dec 20, 2011

Kenzie 96 · Dec 20, 2011

baudib1 said:
pics

lol

Tell her to enjoy herself, when someone describes herself as above, she ain't lookin for advice.

NEWTDOG101 · Dec 21, 2011

baudib1 said:
pics

+1

shinedown.45 · Dec 21, 2011

gritgar said:
Suppose you meet someone who is too lazy to study or feels like studying poker is too much work. She wants to learn a few basic concepts and then just go play. Also suppose this person isn't bothered by losing and never tilts. What advice would you give her?

I'd probably advise play money. But failing that, I'd advise:

1. The lowest possible stakes
2. A BR of let's say 5,000 buyins
3. Single tabling only and only play speed tables
4. Chat incessantly during play
5. Play when she feels like it as opposed to keeping track of hot and cold runs
6. The only stop loss is when it's not fun right now
7. Favor kitchen table games

Anything else you guys can think of, or do you disagree with anything I've got listed?

Are you serious?
I have to meet this woman who is willing to take a mans advice

gritgar · Dec 21, 2011

Sexist b.s. and horny teenager nonsense aside, thanks to those who attempted to be helpful in their responses.

shinedown.45 · Dec 21, 2011

gritgar said:
Sexist b.s. and horny teenager nonsense aside, thanks to those who attempted to be helpful in their responses.

Wow, you see a smiley and still think I was serious, FYI, I'm 41 and married to a wonderful woman.
If I was sexist, I think I would be single and lonely.

NEWTDOG101 · Dec 21, 2011

gritgar said:
Sexist b.s. and horny teenager nonsense aside, thanks to those who attempted to be helpful in their responses.

Look buddy I know your new around here but this is a well run and respectable forum here and If you would have took the time to look around and read some threads and postings you'd see we have a sense of humor. We were only joking with you, so lighten up! I don't think you want to get off on the wrong foot here, if you want people to respond to you. There are many female members here and I assure you they would tell you that we are non of the above as you described. So chill with that!

Now to answer your OP, after you give her the basics of poker let it go. If she doesn't care to know more that's her. Why give advice when it isn't wanted? You have many players male and female with this type of attitude so it's nothing new, trust me they will learn and if they get serious about playing they will come back and ask for help. Now on the flip side of that you have alot of players in the poker world who were just like this but yet went on to win millions of dollars playing and did no real studying, only went off the basic rules of the game and luck. So tmo and gl with your friend.

wagon596 · Dec 21, 2011

I don't know about advice,,, but you may want to give her a cab fare voucher. Take care

bgomez89 · Dec 21, 2011

shinedown.45 said:
Are you serious?
I have to meet this woman who is willing to take a mans advice

Loolllll!

But seriously just teach her what hand beats what(two pair beats pair etc) and tell her to play pairs and picture cards and let her go

PotluckXXI · Dec 21, 2011

sorry but 5,000 Buyins? consider 100 BB as a standard buy in she'd need $25,000 to play $0.02/$0.05 Hold'em.

essambb · Dec 21, 2011

1-dont play
2-please dont play
3-use the first two tips

Tammy · Dec 21, 2011

essambb said:
1-dont play
2-please dont play
3-but if you really must, come play at my table

FYP.

But seriously, if she really feels as you say in your original post, I would definitely suggest play money or freerolls. Unless she can stick to a budget, consider it "entertainment funds" and not go over that once it's gone.

baudib1 · Dec 21, 2011

Play MTTs using Sklansky's "The System"

bgomez89 · Dec 22, 2011

essambb said:
1-dont play
2-please dont play
3-use the first two tips

Wow seriously? Are you afraid of fish or something?

TheKAAHK · Dec 22, 2011

bgomez89 said:
Wow seriously? Are you afraid of fish or something?

He's afraid of women (players).

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