Annie Duke Leaves UB

Boomswitch · Dec 31, 2010

IMO if anybody has any funds on UB I would get them off now. Annie Duke leaving is meh, but Hellmuth departing means something is up.

Marginal · Dec 31, 2010

Boomswitch said:
IMO if anybody has any funds on Ultimatebet I would get them off now. Annie Duke leaving is meh, but Hellmuth departing means something is up.

Or it could just mean his contract is up and he does not want to be involved any further? People reading way too much into this. Does not mean end of world

Boomswitch · Dec 31, 2010

marginal said:
Or it could just mean his contract is up and he does not want to be involved any further? People reading way too much into this. Does not mean end of world

I know, but I still it find it fishy is all. I am just giving my opinion, cause you know someone has to be the paranoid omg its all over guy.

gobthemagician · Jan 1, 2011

Hmm interesting first pokerbrat leaves now annie, who else do UB have?

absoluthamm · Jan 1, 2011

gobthemagician said:
Hmm interesting first pokerbrat leaves now annie, who else do Ultimatebet have?

other way around. Annie's news broke first

Mortis · Jan 1, 2011

Double-A said:
Butter side down?

I lol'd.

skyin452 · Jan 1, 2011

who really gives a big cornbread phuq what UB does!!

LarkMarlow · Jan 1, 2011

ckickenking said:
That is not true. Do anyone know someone who likes Annie Duke? The majority hates her.

Though I'm aware that most guys dislike Annie Duke. I know lots of women who really respect her. I, for one, would take her over Phil Hellmuth any day. She's worked really hard to promote the legalization of online poker in a big way, including appearing before a Congressional Committee last year. Her philanthropic efforts are legend. Phil is all about promoting Phil.

Back to the latest gossip--apparently pro Joe Rietman (sp?) finally asked Annie to marry him on Christmas Eve and she said yes. Regarding affiliating with another site anytime soon, she said no.

Divebitch · Jan 2, 2011

absoluthamm said:
Well, I spoke too soon, Phill Hellmuth is out now too...

I might want to get anything I have left on Ultimatebet out of there, something is going on when their two top pros leave in one day.

Sounds pretty bad to me. Aside from Annie & Phil, I couldn't even think of any other pros there. Sadly, I never deposited there, so can't withdraw. And at this point, I'd be afraid to, like maybe cut my losses. I mean what could UB be thinking? You gotta imagine an total onslaught of withdrawals are in progress - or should I say attempted. Hey, could anyone else see Hellmuth at Carbon?

Sysvr4 · Jan 2, 2011

Divebitch said:
Sadly, I never deposited there, so can't withdraw. And at this point, I'd be afraid to, like maybe cut my losses. I mean what could Ultimatebet be thinking? You gotta imagine an total onslaught of withdrawals are in progress - or should I say attempted

Yeah, makes me wish I'd tried to trade my $10 with someone on Stars or FTP before now

Honestly, if anything, I'm surprised it took this long. Once their respective scandals broke, both UB and Absolute should have been entirely void of players, in my opinion.

dmorris68 · Jan 5, 2011

I listened to Dennis Phillip's radio show yesterday and they had Annie on. She explained several things to dispel all the rumors circulating. Let's see if I can remember the Cliff Notes:

She resigned, they did not let her go. And she had no knowledge that Phil was leaving. The timing was a coincidence, and an unfortunately one according to her, since it fueled a lot of conspiracy theories and unfounded speculation.
She has a lot of other business ventures going on and was wanting to get out of endorsements. She actually made the decision in the summer or fall, so I guess she was just waiting for a contract expiration or something. She has two books in the works and some other projects she wanted to focus on, including her involvement as a legalization advocate.
Specifically, she stated she did NOT leave to join her brother at FT, even though she understands why people would suspect that. She left Ultimatebet to get away from endorsements, not go after another one. She said that when you see her playing in live tournaments this year, she'll be wearing NO sponsor patches at all.
She doesn't know anything about Phil's situation, but suspects that he left to go to PokerStars. When she actually suggested that Dennis would have some inside info there (him being a Stars Pro), he quipped "no speaky English" and later mentioned to his co-host Paul Harris that it had been discussed but he had no inside information that it was going to happen.

Mortis · Jan 5, 2011

dmorris68 said:
She doesn't know anything about Phil's situation, but suspects that he left to go to PokerStars. When she actually suggested that Dennis would have some inside info there (him being a Stars Pro), he quipped "no speaky English" and later mentioned to his co-host Paul Harris that it had been discussed but he had no inside information that it was going to happen.

If Phil does actually go to PokerStars.. I would love to see some Dusty Schmidt vs. Phil Hellmuth heads up matches.

dmorris68 · Jan 5, 2011

Mortis said:
If Phil does actually go to PokerStars.. I would love to see some Dusty Schmidt vs. Phil Hellmuth heads up matches.

I'm pretty certain it will never happen because Phil would just embarrass himself.

But I would fully expect Phil to try and throw his weight around with PS management to put the screws to people like Dusty that he might have a beef with. Hopefully he won't wield that much influence, and PS won't cater to his ego that much.

onemorechance · Jan 5, 2011

Lol those matches would never, ever happen

arrytus · Jan 5, 2011

uh-oh! when the rats are abandoning ship I guess it's time to move my money to FT.

onemorechance · Jan 5, 2011

arrytus said:
uh-oh! when the rats are abandoning ship I guess it's time to move my money to FT.

lol so you didn't think to get your money off there before?

PattyR · Jan 5, 2011

missed this thead but saw that hellmuth left thread. if i had any dough on ub i'd be a lil concerned

arrytus · Jan 6, 2011

I just now received word Prahlad Freidman is now 'on UB'. this changes EVERYTHING, LITERALLY EVERYTHING!

jazzaxe · Jan 6, 2011

I would expect Duke to have some involvement with Full Tilt and Mr. Phil to Stars.

DINGO8MYBABY · Jan 7, 2011

arrytus said:
I just now received word Prahlad Freidman is now 'on Ultimatebet'. this changes EVERYTHING, LITERALLY EVERYTHING!

I came here to make a post about this. UB said last week they were going to sign young aggressive players throughout the year. Prahlad is the first. Thus, the belief that UB is going down because Hellmuth and Duke are out is a bit exaggerated. Afterall, Joe Sebok never left. I bet UB is bent that FTP has Dwan as he'd fit their gameplan. And the guy who may be the best young player, Yevgeny Timoshenko, seems committed to Poker Stars.

NFLD_REBEL · Jan 7, 2011

Out with the old players in with the new seems to be the direction of UB at the moment. I guess they cant pay those big contracts anymore. Not a lot of traffic at their site probably is the reason.

onemorechance · Jan 7, 2011

Prahlad that is disgraceful

dmorris68 · Jan 7, 2011

onemorechance said:
Prahlad that is disgraceful

Especially since (a) he was probably the biggest victim of the Russ Hamilton cheating scandal, and (b) he has long been outspoken against online poker sites and endorsement deals, accusing pros of "selling out." Then what does he do? Sell out to arguably the most controversial of all online sites, who happened to have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from him. It makes no sense. Irony, meet Prahlad.

Daniel suggested in a tweet last week when the rumors first broke that the only explanation he can come up was that Prahlad must be on some sort of level with Ultimatebet, and is secretly planning to sabotage them. Would be epic if true, lol.

onemorechance · Jan 7, 2011

Honestly the sabotage thing is the only logical reason I can think of lol. I always got the impression in interviews he was intelligent and a man of principle, apparently not.

absoluthamm · Jan 7, 2011

yea, there is either something going on in Prahlad's head or UB just went deep into their pockets to try to get him, but I can't see why they would do that with someone like him. Not only because of their history, but also because Prahlad isn't a huge name like so many others out there. He's a great player, but your average casual poker player won't know his name and therefore won't bring new people to the site because of it.

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