****December Destruction Chat****

Thanks Richy, Zach. Already traded. Post the hand, Chuck...Irexes should make it there today too, by my inaccurate calculations.

gogo Chuck

I have 6852 VPPs to go D'wil. Be somewhere between the 25th and New Year I reckon...

GL chuck and rex. I got 9,922 VPPs to go myself and Im hopin to get ~6-7k cleared between now and wednesday since I'll be on vacation the rest of the month and would prefer not to put in a ton of hands down in florida.

28,838 to go for me. Just caught up to pace but probably fall behind a bit the next 3 days since I've gotta study/take my exams and then going home Tuesday.

bw07507 said:

GL chuck and rex. I got 9,922 VPPs to go myself and Im hopin to get ~6-7k cleared between now and wednesday since I'll be on vacation the rest of the month and would prefer not to put in a ton of hands down in florida.

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where in florida?

After last week's adventure, this week's warm-up lasted about 30 minutes two-pair < flopped straight apparently.

Still chance to get some more hands in.

where in florida?

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Bradenton, its like an hour south of Tampa

just me or are the tables getting ridiculously bad? And by bad I mean chock-full of regs?

At least I know I'll always have a place at 100nl...

PokerStars Game #22912680575: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/12/14 13:29:33 ET
Table 'Peacock V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: IanBarns ($121 in chips)
Seat 2: godfather_AA ($106.70 in chips)
Seat 3: ChuckTs ($104 in chips)
Seat 4: pimmie ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: xRt! ($232.70 in chips)
Seat 6: JanVanOranje ($98 in chips)
xRt!: posts small blind $0.50
JanVanOranje: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [9c 9h]
IanBarns: folds
godfather_AA: folds
ChuckTs: raises $2 to $3
pimmie: calls $3
xRt!: raises $9 to $12
JanVanOranje: folds
ChuckTs: raises $16 to $28
pimmie: folds
xRt!: raises $204.70 to $232.70 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls $76 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($128.70) returned to xRt!
*** FLOP *** [7s 3h Kc]
*** TURN *** [7s 3h Kc] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [7s 3h Kc Qs] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xRt!: shows [Ts Jc] (a straight, Nine to King)
ChuckTs: mucks hand
xRt! collected $209 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $212 | Rake $3
Board [7s 3h Kc Qs 9d]
Seat 1: IanBarns folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: godfather_AA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ChuckTs mucked [9c 9h]
Seat 4: pimmie (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: xRt! (small blind) showed [Ts Jc] and won ($209) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 6: JanVanOranje (big blind) folded before Flop

switch0723 said:

c9, why would you c/r bottom pair no kicker?? that like makes no sense at all.

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As a semi-bluff?

ChuckTs said:

just me or are the tables getting ridiculously bad? And by bad I mean chock-full of regs?

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Well the fact that there are more regs (as time goes on more and more people get better and become "regs") and the economy's bad added to the fact that almost every reg is chasing a milestone now (whether it's the 200k or sne) makes for not great games. Still a good amount of fish imo though although I've been playing the FR tables.

just me or are the tables getting ridiculously bad? And by bad I mean chock-full of regs?

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I played some 200NL 6max around 12 EST today and the tables were pretty fishy.

***** Hand History for Game 7615594806 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 14, 13:49:26 ET 2008
Table Table 127009 (No DP) (real money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: F_Pau ( $230 USD )
Seat 2: Goss1pGirl ( $205.38 USD )
Seat 6: bestBallo ( $237.45 USD )
Seat 5: ferbo99 ( $210 USD )
Seat 4: sableh ( $201.76 USD )
Seat 3: treimy ( $200 USD )
treimy posts small blind [$1 USD].
sableh posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to F_Pau [ As 8s ]
ferbo99 folds
bestBallo calls [$2 USD]
F_Pau raises [$8 USD]
Goss1pGirl calls [$8 USD]
treimy folds
sableh calls [$6 USD]
bestBallo calls [$6 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 5s, 6s ]
sableh checks
bestBallo bets [$23.51 USD]
F_Pau calls [$23.51 USD]
Goss1pGirl folds
sableh calls [$23.51 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
sableh bets [$18 USD]
bestBallo raises [$115.89 USD]
F_Pau is all-In [$198.49 USD]
sableh is all-In [$152.25 USD]
bestBallo calls [$82.60 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]

... sigh.

yay!

c9h13no3 said:

As a semi-bluff?

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semi bluffing 2 pair draw?

just check/call fo sho

it's not unheard of to turn a pair into a semibluff (he also had BDFD). it just doesn't have as much equity as other semibluffs. but semibluffs rely on more than just equity. under the right circumstances i think it can be fine, although i don't do it much myself

at 50nl there is no need though, just play your hand face up and it = profits, only at higher limits where you need to worry about balancing play should that become an issue

I hate you pcolafl

***** Hand History for Game 22915023328 *****
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 14, 02:44:28 ET 2008
Table Kamenyar (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Rhin09 ( $9.95 USD )
Seat 2: muck__you123 ( $18.65 USD )
Seat 4: cas02 ( $10.00 USD )
Seat 5: pcolafl ( $2.20 USD )
Seat 6: Daniela1960 ( $2.15 USD )
muck__you123 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
cas02 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to muck__you123 [ Kd As ]
pcolafl calls [$0.10 USD]
Daniela1960 folds
Rhin09 folds
muck__you123 raises [$0.65 USD]
cas02 folds
pcolafl raises [$2.10 USD]
muck__you123 calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Jh, 2h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
muck__you123 shows [Kd, As ]
pcolafl shows [Kh, 3h ]
pcolafl wins $4.30 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 22915449076 *****
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 14, 02:57:51 ET 2008
Table Kamenyar (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Rhin09 ( $11.85 USD )
Seat 2: muck__you123 ( $16.50 USD )
Seat 4: cas02 ( $10.75 USD )
Seat 5: pcolafl ( $1.60 USD )
Seat 6: Daniela1960 ( $2.00 USD )
pcolafl posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Daniela1960 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to muck__you123 [ Kh As ]
Rhin09 folds
muck__you123 raises [$0.30 USD]
cas02 folds
pcolafl raises [$1.55 USD]
Daniela1960 folds
muck__you123 calls [$1.30 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, 4s, Js ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
pcolafl shows [Ac, 3d ]
pcolafl wins $3.15 USD from main pot
muck__you123 doesn't show [Kh, As ]



3rd times a charm

***** Hand History for Game 22915707138 *****
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 14, 03:05:55 ET 2008
Table Kamenyar (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: karma033 ( $10.20 USD )
Seat 2: muck__you123 ( $14.70 USD )
Seat 3: hoppi111 ( $10.10 USD )
Seat 4: cas02 ( $10.60 USD )
Seat 5: pcolafl ( $2.45 USD )
Seat 6: Daniela1960 ( $2.50 USD )
cas02 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
pcolafl posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to muck__you123 [ As Ks ]
Daniela1960 folds
karma033 folds
muck__you123 raises [$0.30 USD]
hoppi111 raises [$0.50 USD]
cas02 folds
pcolafl calls [$0.40 USD]
muck__you123 raises [$14.40 USD]
hoppi111 folds
pcolafl calls [$1.95 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 4d, 7c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
pcolafl shows [6c, 6d ]
muck__you123 shows [As, Ks ]
muck__you123 wins $5.20 USD from main pot
muck__you123 wins $12.25 USD from main pot

FP, dont say someone had the 7s???

Well done Chuck may you get lots of super multiplied FPPs.

Congrats Chuckts!

Shortstacking retardation.

Party Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 10 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BTN: $10.07 (100.7 bb)
SB: $9.80 (98 bb)
BB: $2 (20 bb)
UTG: $4.67 (46.7 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): $10.88 (108.8 bb)
UTG+2: $4.14 (41.4 bb)
MP1: $3.88 (38.8 bb)
MP2: $1.80 (18 bb)
MP3: $14.06 (140.6 bb)
CO: $1.69 (16.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with K K
UTG raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, 8 folds, UTG raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $10.88 and is all-in, UTG calls $3.07 and is all-in

Flop: ($9.49) Q 7 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($9.49) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($9.49) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $9.49 pot ($0.47 rake)
UTG showed 4 A (a straight, Four to Eight) and won $9.02 ($4.35 net)
Hero showed K K (a pair of Kings) and lost (-$4.67 net)

Aside from this Party seems kinda weird. In over 3 hours of 6 and 8 tables of ring play I've seen dozens of paired flops. Things like 588 or 66J come up all the time it's sick. I don't know if I'm seeing it more cause of the new site I'm at and different looking cards, or if it's really coming up abnormally plenty. In any case it's kinda annoying playing poker on paired boards all the time . Also my PT HUD won't work. The statboxes don't align with the right players. Been looking around and only cause I saw was the preferred seating. But I took that off and it didn't help.

Thanks guys That's a 10c/hand raise for me! (or something like that...)

Halfway through Dec!

Halfway point in December and you can see the exact point on 6th Dec where I made about 5 simultaneous changes to the way I play the game

wtg Chuck!


This is rather sobering; I started trying to learn to play short stacked back in the summer, and still do play. Since December I open up 4 or 5 tables and buy in either short or full depending on the other stack sizes.

Apparently I've forgotten how to play postflop.

The shortstack graph is from the summer on, but it keeps going up but full stack is eating up the winnings.

ChuckTs said:

yay!

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And not before time I might add

Seriously well done dude.... 200k milestone bonus before the months out imo