Deregister from a big sat above BR limit ???

Worak · Oct 4, 2009

So...I took some of yesterdays winnings and tried a 2.25$ 36 player super sat to the 750K - and won it.

I deregistered immeadiately - my BR doesn't cover 55$ games - correct move ?

Lemlywinks · Oct 4, 2009

Yea I probably would unregister. However, since you were willing to lose 2.25 but ended up getting in, its almost like your freerolling a 55$ tourney.

Play if you want, but unregistering is perfectly acceptable.

Poof · Oct 4, 2009

I would look at it as freerolling the $55 tourney as well.
Good luck either way

bubbasbestbabe · Oct 4, 2009

Deregister and win another. Then play that one.

the lab man · Oct 4, 2009

yes deregister and play 20 more of them( at same price0 games

luckforsome · Oct 5, 2009

Ye Id deresister too... i do it with the satelites 75+15 cent 36 player 6 tbl shootout, with 1st getting 22 dollars...i think there by far the best way to win money with small BR..

Poker Orifice · Oct 5, 2009

That particular $55 satellite MTT is pretty good (it's not a Turbo and ~1in4 get paid).
On your bankroll size though I would for sure unreg. from it and keep the T$'s.
Something I've done in the past was... with T$'s use them strictly for buying into Satellites and try to build it up (only satellites). I've scoped out the lobbys many, many times over and have played a bunch of satellites and now have an idea which ones I prefer to play now (I hate the longshot ones..I think it's on account of my being a sore loser (I just can't get used to losing???). but what a great return for such a small investment). Then (as mentioned above basically).. play another satellite and then play the tourney you win from it. (personally I prefer the $14+1 >> $55 satellites... 1in4 get paid and play is pretty decent. I used to play a bunch of those $6 turbo >> $22 (DoubleDeuce) but I don't like them nearly as much.

Peterr211 · Oct 5, 2009

I've heard that sometimes unregistering doesn't work. At what $ amount do they stop giving you $ and make you play?

M33K3R · Oct 5, 2009

Peterr211 said:
I've heard that sometimes unregistering doesn't work. At what $ amount do they stop giving you $ and make you play?

I belive it depends on the tournament. It will say in the info if you cannot unregister.

Worak · Oct 5, 2009

Thanks for the advice all..... I will use the tourney $ and play a bunch of the same 2$ sats to the 750K - I've got enough T$ to buy-in 24 times - I'm pretty sure I'll finish ITM more than once , maybe take another one down ....

:joyman:

postflopper · Oct 5, 2009

yes, definitely the right BRM move. grats on your win btw.

given68 · Oct 5, 2009

Yes i do understand the bankroll management issue. But why play these if you do not play the event you are trying to qualify for. There is a great chance for a good cash if you can get a deep run going. If you were asking the question about bankroll management then yes Great bank roll management - but it looks like you were trying to qulaify and play in the big one. My advice play the big one and you bankroll still allows you to play more of these if you are comfortabel playing them.

Worak · Oct 5, 2009

postflopper said:
yes, definitely the right BRM move. grats on your win btw.

Ty - BRM got me from 0.53 $ when I started at CC to over 300$ on all sites I play at.

given68 said:
Yes i do understand the bankroll management issue. But why play these if you do not play the event you are trying to qualify for. There is a great chance for a good cash if you can get a deep run going. If you were asking the question about bankroll management then yes Great bank roll management - but it looks like you were trying to qulaify and play in the big one. My advice play the big one and you bankroll still allows you to play more of these if you are comfortabel playing them.

Although rolled for the 2.25$ games so I could start a new one anytime - no I didn't want to play the 50+5$ game - since yesterday I turned 10 T$ to 18 real $ instead.

I think I can beat 2 $ SNGs and MTTs with some constancy now (given normal variance).

Whereas I'm not so sure about beating 55$ MTTs (remember MTTs are high variance and I'm just not rolled -yet-)

Might sound cowardly - but I have become a BR nit. I think that's the greatest improvement I made in my first year at CC.

Arjonius · Oct 5, 2009

I'm with given68. Unless there are truly meaningful reasons to take the money, I'd follow thru and play the tournament. How much is meaningful depends on the individual, but for me at least, $55 isn't even in the ballpark.

And I don't see it as a bankroll issue. That's what satellites are for - to give you the chance to play above where you can buy in.

Grossberger · Oct 5, 2009

Peterr211 said:
I've heard that sometimes unregistering doesn't work. At what $ amount do they stop giving you $ and make you play?

Most satelites if you win will allow you to unregister and turn the money into tournament dollars and you can use little protions of it for smaller tournaments. The steps tournaments on Pokerstars only win you a ticket worth the next level and really can only use the ticket for a regular tournament once you get to the step 4 $215.

ihtennis · Oct 5, 2009

definetely a good move. That is the easiest way to build ur br

PattyR · Oct 5, 2009

i think unregistering is a good idea here.

while u could look at it as freerolling for $55... you could also look at it as $55 added to ur bankroll...so id use the money elsewhere...now if you have any bad streaks it should be easily covered.

nice finish btw!

cheermom48017 · Oct 5, 2009

good job

I satellited into 3 mini ftops and didnt play until the 3rd,although mine was more scheduling.I only played 4, 75% win rate im going to try playing more its been a nice boost to my bankroll.Keep up the good work gl in the next 20!

lektrikguy · Oct 6, 2009

I never thought of unregistering and takin tourney $. If I won a satellite I just ran in it until the wheels fell off. Thanks for the idea. Now if you use tourney $ and win does it go into real money or tourney money?

Worak · Oct 6, 2009

lektrikguy said:
I never thought of unregistering and takin tourney $. If I won a satellite I just ran in it until the wheels fell off. Thanks for the idea. Now if you use tourney $ and win does it go into real money or tourney money?

As far as FT is concerned it only depends on the game you play.

If you buy in a normal real money Sng / Mtt you'll get real money if you place ITM.

thejuanupsman · Oct 6, 2009

given68 said:
Yes i do understand the bankroll management issue. But why play these if you do not play the event you are trying to qualify for. There is a great chance for a good cash if you can get a deep run going. If you were asking the question about bankroll management then yes Great bank roll management - but it looks like you were trying to qulaify and play in the big one. My advice play the big one and you bankroll still allows you to play more of these if you are comfortabel playing them.

I play them because the play is soft. They are often easy cashes.

To the OP, yes I would unregister. But I have become very strict about bankroll management. As a result I have discovered that my bankroll now steadily rises and I rarely suffer a downswing.

Poker Orifice · Oct 6, 2009

given68 said:
Yes i do understand the bankroll management issue. But why play these if you do not play the event you are trying to qualify for. There is a great chance for a good cash if you can get a deep run going. If you were asking the question about bankroll management then yes Great bank roll management - but it looks like you were trying to qulaify and play in the big one. My advice play the big one and you bankroll still allows you to play more of these if you are comfortabel playing them.

Why play satellites if your original intention wasn't to play the tournament you were satelliting into?? Umm.. because it's a great return on your investment playing against an extremely soft field.
There are MANY players online who play tons of satellites while rarely playing the tourney they were intended for. Small example of a friend of mine I once shipped $20 to on Fulltilt. He stuck to mostly playing satellites (and some tokens) and had increased his roll to over $1,100 in 10days (<< not too bad). He did play a handful of MTT's that he had satellited into but not until he had a decent-sized roll to warrant it. (let's say you have $200 in your account... you win a satellite into a $109 mtt... you're going to play the $109 instead of just taking the T$'s??... I wouldn't personally).

Mortis · Oct 6, 2009

Lemlywinks said:
Yea I probably would unregister. However, since you were willing to lose 2.25 but ended up getting in, its almost like your freerolling a 55$ tourney.

Play if you want, but unregistering is perfectly acceptable.

^^ This

It's like playing a huge tournament for the $2.25 that you spent to win the satellite.

I would have stayed in the tourney. But there is nothing wrong with unregistering either.

PNJs_dad · Oct 9, 2009

I would use the tourney dollars too. To me it's the same as spending $55 to play in a tournament. If your BR is under $200 it's really hard to justify that. GL on the felts.

Worak · Oct 9, 2009

Well I worked with the T$ and got my real BR up to 238$ now - after registering for the OFC and the guys vs girls buy-ins (traded 5.50 to PS) + 10$ to my brother I'm at 218$.

So I didn't gain much but better than converting automatically....lol.

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