Do you ever play mind games with your opponents?

pokernutts · Apr 23, 2012

Care to share the mind games you play on your opponents?

Here is one I play regularly when I come across a tight weak player...

I will start off by bluffing the mess outa them every chance I get.

But I make sure my bluff pattern is very specific and predictable ie.. flop bet, turn, bet, river bet (same amount each time)

Then when I get busted I will do the exact same thing but this time I will have the nuts..

Hopefully he will think Im bluffing and play more aggressive and I can get all his chips.

Do you ever do this or anything like it?

Im sure there are more advances deeper level thinking that can be put into action. Id love your feedback!

thanks!

stg1969 · Apr 23, 2012

So, let me get this straight, you let him bust you, just so you can bust him back...?

unkown · Apr 23, 2012

^ this, lol..

fletchdad · Apr 23, 2012

If you mean you purposely lose an entire stack to build an image, this is simply wrong and very stupid. As well, you make no reference to stakes and format. Even tho that wont make much difference.

shinedown.45 · Apr 23, 2012

pokernutts said:
Care to share the mind games you play on your opponents?

Here is one I play regularly when I come across a tight weak player...

I will start off by bluffing the mess outa them every chance I get.

But I make sure my bluff pattern is very specific and predictable ie.. flop bet, turn, bet, river bet (same amount each time)

Then when I get busted I will do the exact same thing but this time I will have the nuts..

Hopefully he will think Im bluffing and play more aggressive and I can get all his chips.

Do you ever do this or anything like it?

Im sure there are more advances deeper level thinking that can be put into action. Id love your feedback!

thanks!

I use to do this often.
Then I stopped drinking while playing poker

duggs · Apr 23, 2012

yea man i do this all the time, sometimes ill purposely time bank and fold on the river or turn so it looks like i have disconnection problems, and they bet into me thinking ill auto fold!

duggs · Apr 23, 2012

Also sometimes i show my hand everytime to keep them guessing

duggs · Apr 23, 2012

but in theory yes your right you should be adjusting your ranges based on your image and therefore your opponents ranges and your percieved range on different board textures, but when just starting out online you should just be nitting ep, stealing like a demon, and value betting.

stg1969 · Apr 23, 2012

duggs said:
but when just starting out online you should just be nitting ep, stealing like a demon, and value betting.

I am NOT knitting while i play, it's multitasking, soppy, and besides, the kids have enough hats and scarves

pokernutts · Apr 23, 2012

fletchdad said:
If you mean you purposely lose an entire stack to build an image, this is simply wrong and very stupid. As well, you make no reference to stakes and format. Even tho that wont make much difference.

Not a whole stack.

If hes a tight/weak player I usually make more than I lose.

If I bluff him 10 times and win then... bluff him one more time and lose, how is that losing?

Ive won 10 times and lost only once.

So I won 100.00 and lost 10.00

The next time I will make sure to bet the same way and have the nutts then take his entire stack.

He will think Im bluffing and many times re-raise me with a medium hand (like a pair or two pair).

Then I will take his whole stack with trips or better.

Ive put a lot of players off tilt this way.

fletchdad · Apr 23, 2012

OK, in your OP you said "busted" so I assumed you meant stacks.

But, yea, building an image by making a -ev play for a small amount vs a player who you can later exploit cause of this, sure, thats fine.

Kenzie 96 · Apr 23, 2012

shinedown.45 said:
I use to do this often.
Then I stopped drinking while playing poker

So, who the hell is gonna pay for my kids college?

JusSumguy · Apr 23, 2012

Soooooo... PokerMutts. Can you come over and teach my home game group a few of these lessons?

These old farts could use a lesson or two on the new young guns way of playing poker.

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pokernutts · Apr 23, 2012

JusSumguy said:
Soooooo... PokerMutts. Can you come over and teach my home game group a few of these lessons?

These old farts could use a lesson or two on the new young guns way of playing poker.

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lol thanks for the invite but I think we both know youd just take all my money lol

flatcaller · Apr 23, 2012

pokernutts said:
Care to share the mind games you play on your opponents?

Here is one I play regularly when I come across a tight weak player...

I will start off by bluffing the mess outa them every chance I get.

But I make sure my bluff pattern is very specific and predictable ie.. flop bet, turn, bet, river bet (same amount each time)

Then when I get busted I will do the exact same thing but this time I will have the nuts..

Hopefully he will think Im bluffing and play more aggressive and I can get all his chips.

Do you ever do this or anything like it?

Im sure there are more advances deeper level thinking that can be put into action. Id love your feedback!

thanks!

If you are going to play like this why not just bluff and win the pot then show your bluff. You don't need to loose money to get people to pay you off.

pokernutts · Apr 23, 2012

flatcaller said:
If you are going to play like this why not just bluff and win the pot then show your bluff. You don't need to loose money to get people to pay you off.

Youre right in live games this would work but not online.

XTheAvengerX · Apr 23, 2012

I have seen many approach's to a mind game, never one that allows yourself to bust a stack. I do believe in losing to win sometimes, but I think that is a bit counter-productive.

Demonomania · Apr 23, 2012

lol shockingly I've ran into a ton of players that seem to be very fond of this 'mind game'.

...I've grown quite fond of them doing it too

NoOneYouKnow · Apr 23, 2012

The positive correlation between bad players and "mind games" is quite amazing.

Do things like hand reading and astute observation and you will actually become a much better player.

JusSumguy · Apr 23, 2012

Just so's you know Mutts. Get talkative in chat and most of the good players immediately note you for future withdrawal.

Here's a hint. When you get friend requests, it's not because they like your cutting wit.

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Poker Orifice · Apr 24, 2012

flatcaller said:
why not just bluff and win the pot then show your bluff.

pokernutts said:
Youre right in live games this would work but not online.

Why not online?

stg1969 · Apr 24, 2012

Poker Orifice said:
Why not online?

C'mon man, you can't bluff online, jeez dont you know anything, pffff...

RamdeeBen · Apr 24, 2012

So you're risking your whole stack to start with in the hope of winning a stack back of him?

This seems like a losing bet to start of with.

nc_royals · Apr 24, 2012

duggs said:
Also sometimes i show my hand everytime to keep them guessing

Wouldnt not showing your hands keep them guessing as well.

Showing your hands only stumps the fish. The better players will start to take advantage of it.

duggs · Apr 24, 2012

nc_royals said:
Wouldnt not showing your hands keep them guessing as well.

Showing your hands only stumps the fish. The better players will start to take advantage of it.

read that and the above post again and get back to me if you still take it seriously

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