Do you have the balls to do this???

5TR8 FLUSH · Jun 30, 2009

The one and only great Phil Ivey, how did he know that he had the other guy beat. The best bluff vs bluff video I have ever seen, MIND BLOWING.

Here's the video (If someone has posted this vid., sorry didn't check)

Phil Ivey v Paul Jackson - Bluff v Bluff

Flushdraw · Jun 30, 2009

Not the best one I've seen but great non-the-less. If Jackson truely believed Ivey didn't have a J he should have raised all-in on his second bet.
Love watching the pros tho, they've got some balls lol

white_lytning · Jun 30, 2009

"Watching this hand was like seeing great art"

LOL

Get over yourself. Its poker.

BDDP · Jun 30, 2009

I agree with flushdraw, the only hope that jackson had was going all in on his second reraise to accurately represent the J. Ivey put him off the J from jump and when jackson didn't pull the trigger he only confrirmed Ivey's suspicion. Not that it wasn't a good re re raise, Ivey had him 4 to 1 chipstack and felt he had the read. as far as the original question about my balls, the answer, i think is happily no I don't. After missing the flop as bad as jackson did (the whole board including the 7 were higher than his plus the board pair) I like to think i'd have folded to Ivey's original bet in that situation, and that hand never would have made the tv.

tokentheaces · Jun 30, 2009

with just a re-raise??

on Phils raise, Jackson should have pushed all in right away, No hesitation. Then that may have made the J impression, with just a re-raise, to me that says you got crap or your on a draw

OzExorcist · Jun 30, 2009

tokentheaces said:
on Phils raise, Jackson should have pushed all in right away, No hesitation. Then that may have made the J impression, with just a re-raise, to me that says you got crap or your on a draw

Jackson's sitting with about a million - how exactly does a shove represent the jack? The pot's only 250,000 so a shove pretty much never gets called by worse hands and he loses a ton of value.

170,000 is only just over a minraise so maybe he could've made it a bit bigger. But still, if he did have a jack it would've made more sense to make it something like 200,000ish hoping for Phil to come back over the top.

As for how does Ivey know to do this... shrug. He's probably got history and reads on the guy. Plus he's got a 4-1 lead at the start of the hand so even if this backfires he'll still be ahead.

mig2169 · Jun 30, 2009

Some of the bumbest poker i have seen in a while. Not really much to say about the bluff, but jackson is an idiot and could of been more patient, and tried in another situation. Ivey had all the chips and that was an easy all in.

Ernster86 · Jun 30, 2009

I dont know how anyone can applaud Phil Iveys play here. Jackson could of easily had a pocket pair.

Passion_play · Jun 30, 2009

This is where the Donks learn to play poker.. watching UTube plays like this!
I'm not sure how well Ivey knows Jackson but still, gambling at its all time high.
Wild!

Implied Odds3 · Jul 1, 2009

lol, Phil Ivey must have had a great read on Jackson to do that.

jdeliverer · Jul 1, 2009

Obvious conclusion: Phil Ivey = donk.

woody19 · Jul 1, 2009

hmm that was intresting lol must great read or just a stupid move that has been awarded

eddy2009 · Jul 1, 2009

What the hell, man bluffing with nothing... I don't think any non-idot would do a thing like tha.

5TR8 FLUSH · Jul 1, 2009

ITS PHIL IVEY, one of the the all time greatest. How's anyone not gonna think he had a good read on Jackson. Ivey is not a donk, he's just plain amazing. I think both him and Daniel are two greatest readers. I understand that Ivey had a big stack compaired to Jackson but had a great read on em. I would never dare to do something like this, JUST PLAIN AMAZING

OzExorcist · Jul 1, 2009

Ernster86 said:
I dont know how anyone can applaud Phil Iveys play here. Jackson could of easily had a pocket pair.

And what if he did? Unless that pair is JJ or 77 he really can't be feeling comfortable here.

Ivey knows what he's doing - he's just five-bet a pot where there's huge prize money at stake. His initial bet can certainly be a bluff. The re-raise could be a bluff too. But the five-bet?!? On a paired board surely you've got to at least have trips to be thinking about calling. Even AA oughta be feeling squeamish here.

GeoffLacey · Jul 1, 2009

Ivey is Jesus

dj11 · Jul 1, 2009

New terminologies;
3 bluffing, and 4 bluffing, and rebluffing.

Ice Wolf · Jul 1, 2009

You can't bluff that man with that weak shit. Great read by who to me is the greatest poker player alive right now.
And to answer your question hell no.

5TR8 FLUSH · Jul 2, 2009

You've had best answer yet on this post, LOL

Deadly Silent said:
You can't bluff that man with that weak shit. Great read by who to me is the greatest poker player alive right now.
And to answer your question hell no.

I like answer, LOL. I will also agree that he is one of the greatest, if not the greatest. I know Phil Hellmuth isn't the greatest, F' his 12 bracelet. And yes that was a great read, and hell no I would never do that.

coolnout · Jul 8, 2009

sick hand between farha and ivey YouTube - Great play between Ivey and Farah

Jimbojpc · Jul 8, 2009

Both videos are good . Phil Ivey is amazing? Looks like he plays the players more than the cards? Phil says only reason I played the hand is I had the 6 s blocking the straight flush. LOL!

damon789 · Jul 8, 2009

I disagree

Ernster86 said:
I dont know how anyone can applaud Phil Iveys play here. Jackson could of easily had a pocket pair.

A good bluff is all about respresenting a stronger hand than your opponent has

and getting them to fold the best hand. What's not to applaud taking that into

consideration?

Ernster86 · Jul 8, 2009

I agree but I think Phil played like a donk. There was no way jackson was folding after putting all that cash in (lucky for Phil he did fold). Jackson could of had a J and was slowplaying Phil for all he knew.

The smarter thing to do would of been to fold after the flop he just got lucky, he could of easily blew his stack on that one hand.

Yous could put it down to Phil being a genious and having the right "read" but I think he just got really lucky.

Then again the same could be said for jacksons play, he played it bad too.

damon789 said:
A good bluff is all about respresenting a stronger hand than your opponent has

and getting them to fold the best hand. What's not to applaud taking that into

consideration?

Jarod1231 · Jul 8, 2009

I've 4 raised a bluff before.. wasnt all in though... also have to keep in mind if ivey is big stack then he is able to make loose bluffs like this bullying short stack

spacemiu · Jul 11, 2009

Ernster86 said:
I agree but I think Phil played like a donk. There was no way jackson was folding after putting all that cash in (lucky for Phil he did fold). Jackson could of had a J and was slowplaying Phil for all he knew.

The smarter thing to do would of been to fold after the flop he just got lucky, he could of easily blew his stack on that one hand.

Yous could put it down to Phil being a genious and having the right "read" but I think he just got really lucky.

Then again the same could be said for jacksons play, he played it bad too.

Wow, that's a very amauterish comment to make- Obv. the whole tournament they have been aggresive with each other to come this point. No luck or bad play is seen here as you mentioned. They both had a read and went with it annnnd that read is nothing to underestimate! You don't need cards or bets telling you otherwise when you have a certain read!

Also there was no slowplaying here like you mentioned on Jckson's part. People usually call with monsters rather than raising small, so Phil knew 2nd reraise of Jackson wasn't strong but rather to push him off; he went with this read with other dinamics and it was correct. Therefore a brilliant play.

People need to think outside of the box. For the love of God, haven't you seen Durrrr's play this season on Hsp, how fantastic those small edges make up to?

Do you have the balls to do this???

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