Do you miss KK Preflop in All in triple or more?

DiegoRamos · Jan 29, 2018

fortopyan said:
It's joke)))

:laugh:

Vitor Barbosa · Jan 29, 2018

This kind of hand (AA, KK), in 10 times in triple allin, you will be losing in max 3 times preflop, i take the risk

Empress · Jan 29, 2018

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't drop them pre-flop (who would?), but depending on the stakes of the game (or tournament), I wouldn't be going all-in with it pre-flop though.

DiegoRamos · Jan 29, 2018

Vitor Barbosa said:
This kind of hand (AA, KK), in 10 times in triple allin, you will be losing in max 3 times preflop, i take the risk

Almost this, you will win 5.7 times in 10 with KK.
And 7.08 with AA in a triple all in

NBB · Feb 19, 2018

DiegoRamos said:
Almost this, you will win 5.7 times in 10 with KK.
And 7.08 with AA in a triple all in

Generally speaking you may be correct, but when you incorporate online poker, these percentages can and have dropped dramatically.

I can only speak for myself, but playing at a specific top tier online poker site, my preflop KK has lost to your typical freeroll donkies who shove allin preflop at every single freeroll that I have played in.

peeetiee · Feb 19, 2018

Hy!
I don´t like to fold these AA KK QQ but they are only one pair! Of course the highest ones but still only one pair.
You only have 2 outs to improve (besides a 4 card flush).
So pre flop and after flop try to create a 1:1 situation by raising brave. In my opinion it´s a speculative card for the Flop- if you hit a set you are well in front, if not, you are ahead in most times. Carry on betting as long as you think you are in front.

But consider position and play of your opponent´s. I personally don´t like to go all in with one pair. But to call permanent pre flop all in (sukkkers) annoying everybody and preventing reasonable poker they are great.

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Nano5722 · Feb 19, 2018

I,m sure, no one will fold KK, even if your opponent will have AA. I can,t fold this hand and i,m sure that most of the people can,t fold it too. Even if it,s a multy pot with 3 or 4 players how can you fold this? Your opponents can have any hand, maybe they don,t have AA, they can Have AK for example and you will have lots of chances, so, if we are talking about preflop game, absolutely no point in fold that hand.

schtiuky · Feb 19, 2018

Dont know what is good or wrong but on short stack in tournament i playf even 22 with all in didnt have anything to lose (2 bb) i was calked with AA anf i got trips. The villain got so mad the next hand was all in with A3 and got eliminated with KK. So 2 situations with pre flop all in with difrent endings. Was it ok dont know but i felt that way.

georgi krastev · Feb 19, 2018

If the pot gets big preflop can enter ALL-in! These are the two strongest pairs! There is a chance to play with the call if the pot is small or raise! I do not think I have to fold before the flop now!?

Peppinotom · Feb 19, 2018

In my hand range grid on PT 4 all premium hands are green (won) besides the DARK RED KK. I only win them hitting a straight or flush, in case the Ace is on the board. I see my opponents always winning them, but KK doesn-t work for me, no idea why.

NHequalsFU · Feb 19, 2018

haiiG said:
I can't find a reason why would you want to fold AA or KK pre-flop.... If you're big stack you bet 4x/3bet, mid stack 3bet or all-in, short stack just all-in. I never folding these 2.

On the bubble of a satellite when there are several stacks under 5 bb's would be a good time to maybe let them go if there is aggression in front of you.

zwbb · Feb 19, 2018

AA and KK players play cards slowly (they play passively, hoping to lure an opponent into a trap) much more often than they should. The best way to win a big pot with aces or kings is to play them aggressively pre-flop. If I have been raised before, I re-raise each time. In this case, several positive outcomes are possible. First, you can find yourself in a very advantageous situation, when the opponent also has a hand, but not as strong as I have. For example, I have aces, and your opponent has ladies. If I make a 3-bet, then my opponent is likely to raise again, and all the chips will be in the center of the table. My aces will have an 80% chance to win a huge pot. If instead I just call pre-flop, then I will have a chance to win a big pot, especially on flops of type 2-2-5, but there are a lot of flops that will slow the game. If the flop is a king or an ace, my opponent will be forced to slow down. The same will be true for coordinated and / or suited flops of type 7-8-9. There is nothing more frustrating for a successful poker player than the realization that he missed a simple opportunity to win a big pot.

Djmickre · Feb 19, 2018

I never fold preflop with KK AA.

FanfanV · Feb 19, 2018

probably won't fold them, but sometimes might be necessary

nmate · Feb 19, 2018

FreeDom1998 said:
I agree with you, in most cases such hands as AA, KK can not be folded pre-flop, but there are situations when they need to be dropped, for example, when you play an expensive tournament at the final table, and you have a second stack, and ChipLider puts all in, in this case it is better to drop such hands, since not hunting to fly out of the tournament with the second stack.

i'd only fold if i was on the bubble. any other scenario i'm calling. icm or not.

hugh blair · Feb 20, 2018

if you are thinking of folding AA or KK preflop you gotta quit playing poker now have lost a lot of times with AA and KK all in preflop but you still gotta play them won more times than lost with themGood luck

wilywiles · Feb 20, 2018

I cant think of a ssingle situation wheree I throw away either hand. You win some you lose some but you will win more than you lose

wilywiles · Feb 20, 2018

except after the flop but preflop im not tossing those away. Ever.

deeggr · Feb 20, 2018

you have nothing to comment on playing preflop all, just luck, there's no strategy, you just have to wait to put your cards

GL

DiegoRamos · Feb 20, 2018

deeggr said:
you have nothing to comment on playing preflop all, just luck, there's no strategy, you just have to wait to put your cards GL

Your comment is confusing, I do not know if you did not understand the post or affirm that there is no strategy in the pre-flop.

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