Does dealing give you an advantage?

My local casino is looking for poker dealers and it got me thinking,would it help in development of becoming a better live player,i think because you are always watching the players to act you will see reads from them but will it improve your game or just frustrate you because you cant sit and play them????Its got to give some advantages right??

This is probably the largest and most difficult work to define. He has eyes, ears and a brain anywhere and anytime to guarantee speed, integrity and fairness. These automations are numerous and their acquisition is not done in a day. But with experience, a good dealer develops such a speed of reading and analysis that he will be able to anticipate the action of any player in 80% of cases. When you're passionate about gambling, being a croupier is not just a food benefit.

I don’t think watching people play poker in that way has a large benefit for your own game, unless you’re really new to the game or can multi-task, observe closely, and evaluate quickly, all while doing a job.

With that said, I think there are folks that have a natural ‘feel’ for the game. Folks that can anticipate moves, predict calls and folds, identify tilt or other attitude changes, and read opponents more naturally. Maybe dealing would help someone who wasn’t blessed with that ‘feel’ to develop it, or at least gain table experience and find ways to compensate for not having it.

While being a dealer in and of itself does not mean you will be a good poker player. I fail to see how it can hurt. If nothing else, it exposes you to large numbers of hands and when you are good enough to observe (vs. concentrating on dealing without making a mistake) I would think this would be a benefit.

The Dealears are good players.Tough players I would say.They observe a lot.They have too much knowlegement.

Don't know how this will help or not help in the game, but something that will give a rewarding experience that's for sure

Great idea. Such a job plus reading a book about body language would certainly give you a huge advantage. Good luck

Wow ! I never taught about this. I think that is great because you learn more about the game and you also earn money.

Dealing takes a fair deal of concentration, not to mention the risk of a player getting pissed off if you miss something in your attempt to focus on the action - I believe there are a lot faster ways to improve your game. Alternatively, dealing may be more profitable than playing which is why you don't see that many dealers playing!

It gives you an advantage in the ability to count chips quickly, unfortunately it does not give you an advantage in acquiring chips quickly.

Isn't the dealer button , the position of the button? isn't that the best position for betting if you can see all those who've bet before you and can assess the dangers or how many others you'll have to compete with?

Yes being the dealer has an advantage, because until they legalize it its UN-taxable, more money in your pocket lol

Stop when the fun stops or when IRS are checking your income

mikeyg said:

My local casino is looking for poker dealers and it got me thinking,would it help in development of becoming a better live player,i think because you are always watching the players to act you will see reads from them but will it improve your game or just frustrate you because you cant sit and play them????Its got to give some advantages right??

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I think without a doubt it helps. I have a friend who is a very good player that took a job as a dealer at Foxwoods. I don't know how much he plays now but I'm sure dealing keeps your mind on the game. You just don't have the chance to play with the people you deal to because they won't let you play at the casino you deal for.

As a dealer you have a lot more things to be concerned with.
1) Keeping the game moving
2) Pot size and correct rake
3) Game security
4) Your chip rack
5) pulling chips for side bets (Bad Beat Jackpot, high hand ect)
6) Dealing with the (think they are pro) players
7) Enforcing rules
8) Keep table calm for lack of better term

Thats just a short list.

The advantage is the pure number of hands you see and get paid to do so.

Its harder to be that focused on players.

I live in Las Vegas and have met many poker dealers.

Not all, but many are good players. A lot of them prefer not to play however. They spend so much time sitting at a poker table that they don't want to do it on their time off.

You're going to learn a lot when dealing but not enough to win. You'll mostly recognize times when someone makes a mistake. Dealers witness mistakes all day long. So that's an advantage.

If you're really thinking about being a dealer, it's a good idea to practice at some home games with your friends. Just deal the entire time and move the button around. You'll go through the motions and learn the basics.

The more complicated aspects (Usually split pots) will be learned one way or another. It can get a little tricky when you have multiple split pots, but if the largest bet comes from the player with the winning hand, he takes everything....so there's no need to split it up. When the smallest shove wins, he only takes his portion. Then the remaining pot goes to the next strongest hand which is sometimes the next smallest shove....so he gets his portion only and so on and so forth.

I've seen a lot of quibbling over split pots. If you know how to deal with it, it's no problem.

I volunteer to deal in my company's annual tournament (on nights that I don't play) and I find it extremely helpful for my game. I see so many hands and different scenarios that it helps when I encounter those same situations when playing against other players. There is quite a difference between just knowing something and actually seeing it in action. Also, there are definitely some important general observations to be made. For example, I might notice that most players, regardless of playing style, tend to bet a certain way in a specific situation. I enjoy dealing and I try to take in as much information as I can. It certainly can't hurt my game in any way !

Being a dealer for a casino is actually pretty hard and a bit stressful. I used to be a bartender at a casino and knew many dealers...sometimes dealers can deal with similar stress that player deal with. Especially if sometuing goes wrong on their watch...things can get heated and out of hand when it comes to large amounts of money being moved around between people. But will it make u a better player...idk...maybe...but not better than you could be by studying the game and learning. Worrying about being a good poker player is not really something a dealer could focus wholly on while trying to deal cards at a casino and do a good job at that lol

tauri103 said:

This is probably the largest and most difficult work to define. He has eyes, ears and a brain anywhere and anytime to guarantee speed, integrity and fairness. These automations are numerous and their acquisition is not done in a day. But with experience, a good dealer develops such a speed of reading and analysis that he will be able to anticipate the action of any player in 80% of cases. When you're passionate about gambling, being a croupier is not just a food benefit.

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You will learn heaps for sure, the players are open to you as your not in the game and it'll be a very different experience from pvp. I think there's a benefit to a subconscious understanding of run outs but that's probably from 2-3 years +.

Casino dealer

Probably the most obvious profession for the future poker player. Distributing cards and counting chips people most often remain in the shadows, although they are the rightful owners of the tables. Before this work, they undergo a very serious training, because you need to be able not only to deal out cards and spread the flop, but also to be able to quickly count and distribute chips, for example, with all-in four people. Willy-nilly dealers also get acquainted with the strategies of the poker game and adopt something from them.And at the end of the working day, you can change clothes, take chips at the box office and really end up with the players "at the same table"Of the famous poker players, Michael Mizrachi worked as a dealer, working in the casino of his native Florida. But in 2004, he went to poker, won three wsop bracelets and earned more than $ 15 million in his career.

I enjoy dealing at a local pub game where we pass the deck around with the dealer button. If I go out early I’ll usually offer to deal. It’s fun once a week but if it was my FT job I imagine I would enjoy it less.