Does poker need very good memory

luckytvguy · Sep 16, 2013

I have read some books of poker.I feel there are so many things need to be kept in mind.There are a lot of figures and charts.But ,I still have a doubt.Does those great players all keep thouse figures and charts in their mind really?If so,then good players must the people who have very good memory?

nomadnative · Sep 16, 2013

A good memory is very important. However; memorizing all the charts is not the most important. You should use most of your memory on recognizing the ranges and betting patterns of opponents and then learning to adjust to them. This is where the money is made.

hobonc · Sep 16, 2013

Once you have encountered any given situation several times you'll learn how to deal with them. Memorizing the figures and charts is great, but if you have trouble doing so don't get discouraged.

dmorris68 · Sep 16, 2013

Most of the stuff you're talking about will be ingrained into your subconscious after playing enough. The "math" of the game comes with experience.

Owen Gaines points out, and rightly so, that despite people claiming that old-school live players (and even some of those players themselves) played by "feel" rather than by math, the reality is the math becomes "feel" after awhile. They're not doing the mental math consciously, but subsconsiously they learn to recognize the correct play based on what's in front of them. Consciously learning the math would simply accelerate the process.

BomTombadil · Sep 16, 2013

nomadnative said:
You should use most of your memory on recognizing the ranges and betting patterns of opponents and then learning to adjust to them.

I agree with this. That charts have very good info, but it's more important that you pick up on what your opponents are doing.

luckytvguy · Sep 16, 2013

hobonc said:
Once you have encountered any given situation several times you'll learn how to deal with them. Memorizing the figures and charts is great, but if you have trouble doing so don't get discouraged.

What you said encourage me and other people to go on.Lol.

luckytvguy · Sep 16, 2013

dmorris68 said:
Most of the stuff you're talking about will be ingrained into your subconscious after playing enough. The "math" of the game comes with experience.

Owen Gaines points out, and rightly so, that despite people claiming that old-school live players (and even some of those players themselves) played by "feel" rather than by math, the reality is the math becomes "feel" after awhile. They're not doing the mental math consciously, but subsconsiously they learn to recognize the correct play based on what's in front of them. Consciously learning the math would simply accelerate the process.

You are right.Although learning the math is so boring.But so long as I dont have to doing the math when playing,then I will love to take time doing the math when I am learning.

cotta777 · Sep 17, 2013

I think really it depend's
someone like ike haxton or jon andress have memory's like computers,

they remember almost every hand and they'l be like, this guy doesn't ever check a flush draw on the turn or he doesn't flat broadways pre flop etc.
which is a huge advantage against some players.
because they can get away from all their hands

but then someone like ivey/neagranu who are unpredictable dont have like a computer memory but they are extremly good at applying pressure on players 3-bet 4-betting lags and intervening players trying to exploit the table.

so I think both are effective, if you can observe your table and get a strong a realisition of whats going on you can be a winning player at pretty high levels.

Multi tabling hi levels though is best suited to sicko's

RichL · Sep 17, 2013

cotta777 said:
they remember almost every hand and they'll be like, this guy doesn't ever check a flush draw on the turn or he doesn't flat broadways pre flop etc

This is the kind of detail i have trouble remembering. Hopefully that comes more with experience, as other aspects of the game become more automatic (like calculating odds etc).

PlayedYou73 · Sep 17, 2013

This is where programs like PT4 and HEM help. They're a memory aid, since they remember every hand you've ever played in the past, and their HUD's help you determine playing styles at the table. Most of the pros who play online use them, so whether or not they have great memories, it's hard to say, but it wouldn't hurt either.

italiano · Sep 17, 2013

Not all great players have the best memory in the world but I can assure you that Phil Ivey if you have a great memory! Do not know if you noticed that very many apple eats because that helps greatly improve memory!

DaMan1313 · Sep 18, 2013

I think its important to know the material but not neseceraly memorized. It will help but as u already know nothing in poker is black and white and situations are endless.

kmichaels · Sep 21, 2013

You should only use memory to remember your opponent´s signals and betting patterns to make the right decision. Memory in other situations only will make you nervous which will origin bad moves that will cost you money. Talent is much more important than memory. It´s useful but not essential.

Airburn · Sep 21, 2013

I wouldnt call it memory more of an instinct that comes from EXP , Like knowing when to lay down a hand and when to call a bluff

rugby0 · Sep 21, 2013

Read the books, apply them, keep notes, practice. I deal 5 cards face up and practice identifing the best hand. I give myself 2 seconds.

nottoc · Sep 21, 2013

I find that attentiveness at the table is a very useful trait and helps with memory retention. There is a wealth of information available when you are not in a hand and watching for it can pay huge dividends.

While you may not remember how someone played a flush draw on a specific board 3 hours ago, you are more likely to recall it if you saw similar situations play out with the same player and can discern a trend.

When you have been at a table too long and your attention starts to wane, it is likely you are missing things you should be attempting to remember. The best advice in that situation is to take a break.

luckytvguy · Sep 22, 2013

rugby0 said:
Read the books, apply them, keep notes, practice. I deal 5 cards face up and practice identifing the best hand. I give myself 2 seconds.

May be that means huge work gives you good memory.

bezobrazny · Sep 22, 2013

You need nothing for poker game except the money when you play against me.

mlgibbs78 · Sep 22, 2013

yes memory helps to make decisions in future..

steveiam · Sep 24, 2013

I'm sorry what was the question..

Jair83 · Sep 24, 2013

luckytvguy said:
I have read some books of poker.I feel there are so many things need to be kept in mind.There are a lot of figures and charts.But ,I still have a doubt.Does those great players all keep thouse figures and charts in their mind really?If so,then good players must the people who have very good memory?

I think having a good memory takes you analyze, that you've Played Every Poker Player will recognize that with firsthand Play our adversary will notice that kind of player is my opponent if Aggressive, Taigth Etc So it's very advantageous to have good Memory, also helps us to apply our own Poker Player Plays whom you can steal blinds, against whom we have Playing Strong Hands and the types that situation that will carry always in the mind, and that with time will not forget Easy it always will be applying them in the Poker,

That's Good Having good memory We give advantage on those players, who know very little from Poker, or are Bingeros

regards

RNG · Sep 24, 2013

Memory is huge. I need to remember the players you were playing against and the way they played. You dont have to have photographic memory but you have to have a decent iq lol

Ronnyronkes · Sep 26, 2013

Personally, i think u should read it the books. Try to think the percentages because thats what counts

jcdagenius · Sep 28, 2013

I think it helps a ton....as far as knowing who bluffed in what spot and who is playing bad and who is not....just so many aspects memory could help

RajDev1979 · Sep 30, 2013

I disagree with all, it does not need at all. If yes, why the hell Russians wins?

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