Finally Coming terms with Badbeats

damon789 · Jul 19, 2009

Ok coming to BETTER terms with them. Does anyone ever fully come to terms

with them? That being said I guess for me its kinda like getting continually

bludgeoned with a blunt object, the area tends to numb up after awhile. And

it's only taken me about 3 years to "numb up". One thing I have found myself

doing, is not watching the blow by blow falling of the turn and river cards, when

im allin as a huge fav in a sitngo. I just click to another one of my tables and

leave it in the hands of the poker gods. seems to smart less that way when

they hit their 2 and 3 outers

Tom1559 · Jul 19, 2009

Bad beats are part of the game and they do happen to everybody. I take comfort from the fact that if I am favorite I am going to win more than I lose. Bad calls do sometimes get rewarded but the guys making the bad calls lose out in the long run.

TheNoob · Jul 19, 2009

damon789 said:
Ok coming to BETTER terms with them. Does anyone ever fully come to terms

with them? That being said I guess for me its kinda like getting continually

bludgeoned with a blunt object, the area tends to numb up after awhile. And

it's only taken me about 3 years to "numb up". One thing I have found myself

doing, is not watching the blow by blow falling of the turn and river cards, when

im allin as a huge fav in a sitngo. I just click to another one of my tables and

leave it in the hands of the poker gods. seems to smart less that way when

they hit their 2 and 3 outers

I can relate.

I posted recently about an absurd run I had recently where I was losing a ridiculous number of 9:1 situations. People had a hard time believing me but it was true.

I would be watching the cards fall saying to myself 'no 2, no 2'.

When the 2 would hit (or whatever other card they needed to hit their set postflop when they had a smaller pair), I started to flinch violently.

I never got to the point where I hit things (ok, except the closet door once), but losing like that so many times was just so unbelievable it physically stunned me.

I actually got the same idea ........ I'm just not going to watch the cards fall!

Just an idea though. I figured if I get to the point where I have to cover up the cards as they fall, I should probably look for another game.

Infamous1020 · Jul 19, 2009

Theyre part of poker, we get bad beat, and we give them out.

People only seem to remember theyre bad beats, but statistically they give them out also

TexGuy · Jul 19, 2009

good thread

tbdbitl · Jul 19, 2009

If you play long enough, you will be hard pressed to see a badbeat that you've never seen before.

Will you never get upset again? NO

You will at times be amazed at the points during a tournament or game where someone will make a call and catch a 2 outer. And, depending on the stakes it can make you very angry (very very angry if you are a certain Martian).

I just don't let myself get to the point I see others at when they go ballistic on another player. What's the point in it. And. if you are in a cash game I really don't see why you want to teach the player. Just reload and he's bound to give them back to the table. If your lucky they'll make their way back to you.

StormRaven · Jul 20, 2009

tbdbitl said:
If you play long enough, you will be hard pressed to see a badbeat that you've never seen before.

Will you never get upset again? NO

You will at times be amazed at the points during a tournament or game where someone will make a call and catch a 2 outer. And, depending on the stakes it can make you very angry (very very angry if you are a certain Martian).

I just don't let myself get to the point I see others at when they go ballistic on another player. What's the point in it. And. if you are in a cash game I really don't see why you want to teach the player. Just reload and he's bound to give them back to the table. If your lucky they'll make their way back to you.

^^^This. I think it was Sklansky who mentioned something about the really good players will see more bad beats than bad players because the really good players will be getting their chips in more often than not with the better hands.

damon789 · Jul 20, 2009

Skalansk your on the $$$

StormRaven said:
^^^This. I think it was Sklansky who mentioned something about the really good players will see more bad beats than bad players because the really good players will be getting their chips in more often than not with the better hands.

I totally agree, and it makes perfect logical sense. You can't suffer badbeats

unless you are getting your $$$ in with the best of it. A fine concept to keep us

warm at night, when the numbed up area begins to throb, and that old familiar

burning sensation in the back of the head begins to ignite.

damon789 · Jul 20, 2009

Not watchin dem cards come down

TheNoob said:
I can relate.

I posted recently about an absurd run I had recently where I was losing a ridiculous number of 9:1 situations. People had a hard time believing me but it was true.

I would be watching the cards fall saying to myself 'no 2, no 2'.

When the 2 would hit (or whatever other card they needed to hit their set postflop when they had a smaller pair), I started to flinch violently.

I never got to the point where I hit things (ok, except the closet door once), but losing like that so many times was just so unbelievable it physically stunned me.

I actually got the same idea ........ I'm just not going to watch the cards fall!

Just an idea though. I figured if I get to the point where I have to cover up the cards as they fall, I should probably look for another game.

I think you might of missed my point on why I look away. firstly the Blow by

Blow can be nerve racking for sure and I was getting sick of yelling at the

screen NO KING! NO KING! etc etc as were my wife and kids. However, my

main reasoning was that at that point I had out played my Opponent. And

had played the hand to the best of my ability. The result after that didn't

matter, what mattered was what was happening on the next table. Where

my next decision was coming up. Why waste valuable energy on things that

are no longer within your control?

NiceNisus · Jul 20, 2009

I hare regularly losing nlhe mtt in this way:

I get AA, raise 4x BB, 2 limpers call,
flop K 9 6, checked to me, i raise 3/4 pot,
villian shoves, I call my remaining chips,
he shows KJo, turn is a Jack...

I understand that in the long run I should turn a profit,
but in the tournaments I swear I've lost in this exact way countless times,
and it's annoying, very annoying. haha.

Jillychemung · Jul 20, 2009

damon789 said:
Ok coming to BETTER terms with them. Does anyone ever fully come to terms with them?

It really helps when the local poker room manager says "Musta been a suckout, I'm sure he had the best hand going in" when he gets updated that you've busted out of the tournament

I always remind myself that, preflop, there are no 100% winning hands and that there are very few 100% wining hands even after the flop. The bad beats are out of your control. If you got your money in ahead in a spot where it makes sense to be all-in then just curse the poker gods and remember you made a good decision to start with.

wagon596 · Jul 20, 2009

Streaks

Bad beats seem to run in streaks for me. When it happens it doesn't matter how many sites I play on it seems to follow me around. Then after a couple of days it lets up. I've noticed if I go deep into a tournament or even win it, I hand out at least one bad beat,,, or what I call a lucky draw LOL. Anyway just my thoughts...
Take care

KardKlub · Jul 20, 2009

Howard Lederer said it best when, he said. You must forgive yourself for any bad mistake or bad beat in this case to the point it only acts as a learning curve. Letting it build up can only affect your play even months down the line.

Forgive
Forgive
Forgive

Only you will loose out if you can't. Don't give them anymore of your chips or money while steaming over your last mistake or bad beat.

Infamous1020 · Jul 21, 2009

i just 1 outed someone shipit

PokerJoeAAAA · Jul 21, 2009

Infamous1020 said:
i just 1 outed someone shipit

Be proud.......................really really proud!!!!!!!!!

damon789 · Jul 21, 2009

one outer

Infamous1020 said:
i just 1 outed someone shipit

Now that's a donkey kick straight from hell be very proud( that you are on the right side of it)

Worak · Jul 21, 2009

Infamous1020 said:
i just 1 outed someone shipit

PokerJoeAAAA said:
Be proud.......................really really proud!!!!!!!!!

damon789 said:
Now that's a donkey kick straight from hell be very proud( that you are on the right side of it)

As said we do give bad beats, too (but rather rarely).

Ranger390 · Jul 23, 2009

Bad beats happen, but that doesn't mean I have to like them! I can relate to the numb feeling and to Noobs' losing a bunch of 9:1 hands...happened to me a lot this week. The only way to "get over" bad beats is to realize that in the long run the donk who put one on your is destined to go broke. I only wish I would be there to see it!

Maybe we ought to start a 12 Step Program..."I came to realize that I am powerless over bad beats (and donks) and that my poker game had become unmanageable!"

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