The Future For Online Poker?

gtrippp · Apr 18, 2011

Oil_Fan · Apr 18, 2011

Love the vid!!

Dreams of Tragedy · Apr 18, 2011

so sad, but so true

appaz86 · Apr 18, 2011

epic win

lennysmalls · Apr 18, 2011

Haha, nice vid. Hopefully we'll have a resolution soon.....
But if they're not getting their cut then nobody will

PattyR · Apr 19, 2011

true story. agreed its more sad than an epic win though.

PurgatoryD · Apr 19, 2011

LOL! I love the ending... "Thanks for keeping the neighborhood safe."

More lame messed up priorities and wasted tax dollars.

xboxerdude · Apr 19, 2011

Lol funny video.

But yea pointless swat teams running around bullying people and shooting them for a war on drugs(pointless) a war on guns (2nd admendment dipshits) and a war on poker( again pointless) oh and a war on terrorism (use common sense there is no threat, 9/11 was an inside job) a war on freedom and liberty is what it really is.

You know we could solve the countries problems by revolting.

NLCE · Apr 19, 2011

LOL, nice vid gtrippp. Let's hope this mess gets resolved sooner than later.

MediaBLITZ · Apr 19, 2011

I'm not too happy that PPA is using our money to make cutesy videos that will not have any impact in the needed areas. Another political move by an organization to give their constituents the illusion of doing something.

What incentive does the PPA have to do anything beyond going through the motions seeing as how accomplishing their mission will put them all out of a job?

jonjonR · Apr 19, 2011

This is so true yet so funny yet so sad... and depressing. What will become of online poker?

Potheadwoman · Apr 19, 2011

9/11 was not an inside job lol? Its just silly and all of those videos out there are chopped to make their story sound true. Media your right lobby groups have very little incentive to push legislation all the way through. However its probably unlikely that they are intentionally trying to keep legislation up in the air.

gtrippp · Apr 19, 2011

Interesting thought, that poker being legalized would put ppl in the PPA out of a job. Inane thought, tho, that 9-11 was an inside job.

spcsinger21 · Apr 20, 2011

This is a old video.....The PPA did not make this recently....I think they made back in 2006 during the UIEGA

MediaBLITZ · Apr 20, 2011

spcsinger21 said:
This is a old video.....The PPA did not make this recently....I think they made back in 2006 during the UIEGA

Okay - point taken

lennysmalls · Apr 20, 2011

Are any Americans out there afraid to play?

MediaBLITZ · Apr 20, 2011

lennysmalls said:
Are any Americans out there afraid to play?

What do you mean? You understand when we go and try to play online we are not even allowed to play? A window pops up blocking us from playing and says we are not allowed in. It's not like we can even choose to ignore what is going on.

Waybizzle · Apr 21, 2011

so sas

akaCLINT · Apr 21, 2011

SIGH... real sad times...
nice vid though

aC

lennysmalls · Apr 22, 2011

MediaBLITZ said:
What do you mean? You understand when we go and try to play online we are not even allowed to play? A window pops up blocking us from playing and says we are not allowed in. It's not like we can even choose to ignore what is going on.

You do understand that only a few sites are shut down and there are still plenty of options for us Americans?

What I meant by "scared to play" was are you guys yanking your bankrolls from the sites that still allow US players (or not making any more deposits for some) in fear that they too may be frozen in the future? Also will there be possible punishment/fines for US players?

Just wondering how comfortable everyone felt about playing now.

MediaBLITZ · Apr 22, 2011

Oh, okay - not comfortable at all. I wasn't comfortable with the other sites to begin with and stuck with PS and FTP for playing. So this doesn't make me more comfortable.

As far as cashing out...
I submitted to PS to cashout and got the email response t allow 15 days for a check to arrive (I opted for check because it only made sense that an e-transfer was going to be a problem).
Here is the string:

I go through cash out and get email response -

Cashout request time: 2011/04/15 21:37 CT

Cashout amount: USD XXXX.XX

A check for USD XXXX.XX will be issued.
Credit transaction #5409XXXXX
The check will be issued by our payment processor, NOT by POKERSTARS. If you have any questions or require further clarification please contact the customer support number detailed on the check. Alternatively, you may contact "PokerStars Cashier" <[email protected]>

Please allow up to 72 hours for cashout processing.

Note: USD Checks will be delivered by regular mail and are expected to arrive within 15 business days. We strongly recommend that you deposit your check at your bank and avoid using check cashing stores.

Then 5 days later I get this (note the 72 hours in their message above) -

Hello MediaBLITZ,

This email is to notify you that the following cashout via Cheque Issued was rejected.

Cashout request time: 2011/04/15
Cashout amount: USD XXXX.XX
Cheque Issued cashout transaction ID: 5409XXXX
The amount of USD XXXX.XX has been credited back to your PokerStars account balance. If you have any further questions regarding this transaction, please contact "PokerStars Cashier" <[email protected]>.

Best regards,

Allegedly this was soley because (email sent on same day) -

Dear MediaBLITZ,

We were very pleased to receive the news today that allows US players to cash out their real money balances.

In response to this update, the Cashout Option in the PokerStars Cashier will be temporarily closed to allow us to prepare the technical solutions and formulate the plan and processes required to allow you to cash out your balance.

In the interim, any pending cashouts have been returned to your account in order to ensure players have the opportunity to cash out orderly. Please be assured, US player balances are safe. We will notify all US players as soon as the cashier is available again.

Providing you with the facility to cash out is our top priority right now, and hopefully all US players will be able to cash out via the PokerStars Cashier in the near future. We apologize for the temporary delay, and sincerely appreciate your patience and cooperation, as we continue working towards providing you with a solution to cash out.

Regards,

PokerStars Support

The message that pops up when accessing the usual playing software is -

An agreement has been reached with the US Department of Justice to allow United States Poker Stars customers to cashout their funds. PokerStars will work diligently to expedite those withdrawals. All Poker Stars player deposits are completely safe.
While we prepare the technical solutions and formulate the plan and processes required to allow you to cash out your balance, the Cash Out option in the PokerStars Cashier will temporarily be unavailable. We will notify all US players as soon as this option is available again. Link to FAQ - http://www.pokerstars.com/usaplayers/faq/
You know, all this time I was under the assumption that PokerStars had the technical solutions and had formulated the plan and processes required to allow me to cash out my balance. I guess I assumed too much.

And personally, I have no fear or worries about any individual punishments coming to players - but I would imagine the IRS (taxes) could be getting a list of names to scrutinize

lennysmalls · Apr 22, 2011

Thanks Blitz. Although I haven't played at PS in years due to the fact I could not easily make a deposit. The info. you posted makes me feel at little more at ease about playing on other sites for the time being.

MediaBLITZ · Apr 22, 2011

I just downloaded Bodog and am checking that out. Really don't care for the cheap GUI they use but what are ya gonna do

Poof · Apr 22, 2011

I am playing at Bodog and Carbon, I have a couple bucks on FeltStars I might try to do something with as well.

lennysmalls · Apr 22, 2011

Yeah Bodog is where I play right now because I also like the sportsbook.
Blitz, what is GUI?
Pooffy how do you like Carbon? Is it better than Bodog?

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