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Message: [QUOTE="Lheticus, post: 2281755, member: 111392"] I think the question that is really causing the dispute here is the question "What exactly IS a "great" poker player? My answer? Someone who gets results. And from all accounts, Vanessa gets results. From what I can gather from the above and other posts on this thread, you seem to think a "great player" is "someone who makes great plays", great plays defined as extremely ballsy moves that work, such as folding KK due to a read, bluffing your rump off and everybody folding to your 72 offsuit, or being extremely aggressive with chips to repeatedly pick up blinds and antes. The fact of the matter is, while such plays often LOOK great, what they really do is make the game interesting for TV--they're Hollywood plays. Not all Hollywood plays are great plays, and DEFINITELY not all great plays are Hollywood plays. A "great play" can be more accurately defined as "the correct play to make at a given moment being made". If you don't handicap yourself on information, if you learn to read people's hands, not in a parlor trick exact way--that's completely superfluous, Hollywood banter--but just to tell if you are or are not beat, and you strive to make correct decisions, and succeed at doing so significantly more often than not, you can be a great player. As for your comments on luck, well...claiming she only wins because she is lucky is a bit like flipping two coins and saying if a coin representing luck lands on heads (representing good luck) then the result for the coin representing skill doesn't count. She IS skilled, she just doesn't make Hollywood plays, from what I'm hearing. In terms of great poker players, one hand, one game, one tournament is utterly meaningless (unless maybe that tournament is the WSOP main event.) What matters, as I said at the start of this, is results over ALL the hands, the games, the tournaments. And I don't think anyone can realistically say that she doesn't get those results. If she didn't I probably wouldn't have heard of her, for one thing. [/QUOTE]

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