heads up and cheating

tcummo · Sep 7, 2011

hi all,
just been reading about collusion and cheating in online poker.
it seems to me, if you are going to play for money, then
heads up seems to be the 'safest' game to play.
i can't think of any way to cheat playing heads up unless
you are playing against a pokerbot.
any more than two players and collusion is possible.
are there any 'known' ways of cheating at heads up ?

Charade You Are · Sep 7, 2011

tcummo said:
are there any 'known' ways of cheating at heads up ?

3 words: Jose “Girah” Macedo

absoluthamm · Sep 7, 2011

OK, aside from letting someone you don't know/trust extremely well, there isn't much of a way to cheat in online HU poker

(unless they hack your computer, lol)

Tonawanda · Sep 8, 2011

Interesting

tcummo said:
hi all,
just been reading about collusion and cheating in online poker.
it seems to me, if you are going to play for money, then
heads up seems to be the 'safest' game to play.
i can't think of any way to cheat playing heads up unless
you are playing against a pokerbot.
any more than two players and collusion is possible.
are there any 'known' ways of cheating at heads up ?

Interesting and very good idea. Of course, cheating is always a possibility, opponent and poker room. I always thought that large MTT's were a good bet. The colluders would have to end up at the same table to cheat.

Vollycat · Sep 8, 2011

There 'may' be a story on UB and Absolute Poker as well. 2 of the dirtiest words in poker in my opinion.

pfb8888 · Sep 8, 2011

sharing hand history would be one way to collude

large mtts? good point tonawanda...so for cash how about rush poker?

brank · Sep 9, 2011

pfb8888 said:
sharing hand history would be one way to collude

large mtts? good point tonawanda...so for cash how about rush poker?

Does not exist.

absoluthamm · Sep 9, 2011

lol true

Poker Orifice · Sep 9, 2011

tcummo said:
hi all,
unless
you are playing against a pokerbot.

seriously... you wouldn't want to play a bot hu? Think about it??

Tonawanda said:
I always thought that large MTT's were a good bet. The colluders would have to end up at the same table to cheat.

'Colluders' in the typical sense of the meaning, however there's been many documented cases of online rings where players will pass their tourney off to a better player once they're deep in it.

Personally I don't worry about it much at all. Sure if I see some stuff that seems suspect I'll check into it (& of course if it's blatant I'll contact support). Have had a few situations in STT/SNG where players were obviously colluding & support took care of it. Typically though it rarely ever crosses my mind while playing (maybe once or twice a yr.?)

Moving to HU sng or HU cash would not be a choice I'd be making based on fear of colluders. I'd only be playing those formats if it was what I desired to play.

Makwa · Sep 9, 2011

I'm afraid to play HU, I might start colluding and tell the guy what I have...

buster999 · Sep 13, 2011

colluding on Facebook poker.

absoluthamm · Sep 13, 2011

buster999 said:
colluding on Facebook poker.

meh, no one cares about Facebook poker.

MidyMat · Sep 13, 2011

absoluthamm said:
meh, no one cares about Facebook poker.

This should read " no cares about FaceBook ".......at least I don't.
:bandit:

absoluthamm · Sep 13, 2011

Very true

ariesj11 · Sep 13, 2011

funny video lol

Poker Orifice · Sep 14, 2011

buster999 said:
colluding on Facebook poker.
Two girls on Facebook Poker Chat think that by muting everyone, nobody can see THEIR words - YouTube

ha ha ha.. Awesome vid.!!!! Love it! tks for posting
|mute ricardo
mute
mute
A9
I've got 3-of-a-kind!!!!

priceless

Dreams of Tragedy · Sep 14, 2011

i have seen it happen, chip dumping heads up before over at poker view
i saw this happen
player one: rasies 3x
player 2 : reraises all chip except for .01
players 1: reraises more
player 2 : folds
then they move to a new table and do the same thing
to make the story short i reported them and have not seen then since online

Vfranks · Sep 14, 2011

absoluthamm said:
OK, aside from letting someone you don't know/trust extremely well, there isn't much of a way to cheat in online HU poker

(unless they hack your computer, lol)

aside from letting someone you don't know/trust extremely well do what?

Poker Orifice · Sep 14, 2011

Dreams of Tragedy said:
i have seen it happen, chip dumping heads up before over at poker view
i saw this happen
player one: rasies 3x
player 2 : reraises all chip except for .01
players 1: reraises more
player 2 : folds
then they move to a new table and do the same thing
to make the story short i reported them and have not seen then since online

Why? I mean if they're playing HU cash table & obviously to transfer $'s to other's acc't.,.... who cares? Why report them?
I realize it's against TOS but who does it harm? (hence > why report them?)

absoluthamm · Sep 14, 2011

Vfranks said:
aside from letting someone you don't know/trust extremely well do what?

Sweat you

DaveE · Sep 14, 2011

buster999 said:
colluding on Facebook poker.
Two girls on Facebook Poker Chat think that by muting everyone, nobody can see THEIR words - YouTube

I don't give a crap about facebook poker but that's funny

Poker Orifice · Sep 14, 2011

"Oh.. there's a new player.. 'mute' 'mute' 'mute'!!!" this was soooooo good!!
mute ricardo.. mute mute!!!

Madness_does · Sep 15, 2011

That is why I love the poker stars heads up 2.20 game, just dont see how someone is going to cheat heads up, of course it was like the other guy said, UB poker or absolute.

Poker Orifice · Sep 16, 2011

allena said:
Facebook poker is a lot different. We don't need to do anything in it.

Huh? Does this insinuate that we need to do stuff in other tournaments?

Doubt you watched the vid. above from the poster who made a reference to Facebook poker. It's actually pretty funny. "mute.. mute.. mute!!!"

Roller · Sep 16, 2011

Poker Orifice said:
Why? I mean if they're playing HU cash table & obviously to transfer $'s to other's acc't.,.... who cares? Why report them?
I realize it's against TOS but who does it harm? (hence > why report them?)

Transferring Money from player to player - I don't think that's Collusion either ....
Against poker sites Rules, but not collusion IMO.

+1

Why Report that that has no negative effect on another player?

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