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[QUOTE="mellow123, post: 6020626, member: 83271"]
I think it’s impossible to come up with precise calculation of skill v. luck.

I always think of it this way. Poker requires some luck, but the more skill you have, the less luck you need.

Just about about anything has luck embedded within, but the type of competition dictates the degree of luck that sways the outcome.

To use extreme examples, most people say chess is a pure game of skill. But, what if your opponent gets into a car accident on the way to the competition? What if the opponent has some sort of mental lapse during the event? True, the chances of that kind of luck are minuscule, but there’s still some element of luck, no matter matter how small.

On the other end of this annoyingly extreme comparison, take a coin flip. Most would say that’s pure luck. But coins aren’t perfect. What if soneone did a deep dive  microscopic examination of the coin, applied a bunch of mind-blowing physics , and determined a given   Coin had a 1 thousandth percent advantage of landing on heads? Again, practically negligible, but possibility exists to be able to apply skill, no matter how little it impacts the outcome.

Back to poker, it depends. If it’s a straight cash game, and you play just one hand, then that’s mostly luck.

If you plan on playing for, say 3 hours, more skill is required because variance minimizes luck required.

I think tournaments require more luck than cash games, because of the increasing blind structure. You need more good cards near the end when you’re at 8xbb or less.
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