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Message: [QUOTE="Ronaldadio, post: 411824, member: 11310"] Hi fellas Some time ago I started a thread along the same line as this. After playing a month or 2 since then I have 2 say I don`t believe most of you!!! The question I asked was how often do you expect to get in the money when playing MTT. A few of you said `most of the time` I can`t believe this just because of the luck element in poker. If I look at 3 tournys I have played in this week. I will go through the hands that either put me out or effectivly put me out. [LIST] [*]$50 hi stack no limit holdem - Dealt pkt KK. Push 5 times bb (500 chips at time) Called all in by shorter stack (he had about 1000 chips, I had 700 after the raise) I call his all in, he turns over AQs. I hit trips, he catches A hi straight. [*]$25 1500 chip no limit freezeout. I`m on bb. K8clubs. Flop shows all clubs. I check, everyone checks. Turn is heart. I raise pot size (600 chips) I get a caller who puts in 1/2 his stack. 600 is almost half my stack also. I now know ther are a max of 8 clubs out there, but I almost certainly know 7 cause the other guy has a club. So he has a 15% chance of hitting. Suprise suprise, club hits. [*]$25 1500 chip no limit freezeout. 16 place, pay top 10. (I have about 8000 chips, blinds about 600/ 300 other guy has same chips) Dealt pkt JJ. I call, raised about 1200 chips, I call. Flop J, 8, 3 rainbow. He goes all in, obviously I call. He turns over Q10, and yes, u guessed it, turn A, river K - straight!!![/LIST]Now I know it is only a small sample, but if you accept pre flop I think the worst position you can be in is about 30% chance of winning heads up, regardless of cards, luck plays a big part in poker. Therefore I can`t believe the people who say they get in the money `most of the tournys they play in` I am not saying that there is no skill in poker and I know if you play the cards mathematically u will win more times than lose with the above examples. Other things that happen is u r dealt AA, all fold around to u and u can`t win any cash with the premium starting hand - thats your chance gone with that hand for a while!!! So, a little bit honesty would be appreciated guys, how often do you make the money in the MTT u play in??? An example of what would help me would be if you could explain it like this - On average for every 50 tournys you play in u reach first place once, top 3 twice, final table 3 times, in money four times, meaning for every 50 tourneys you play in on 10 occasions u at least get in money. This would help a lot of people understand the reallity of poker, regardless of the ability of the player. Also, if you have comments on my above play and u think I did not do the correct thing tell me. What I do know is that I was a big fav when I went all in in every occassion. As always guys, thanks for listening and your comments are always appreciated. Ronaldadio, the unluckiest poker player in the World, bar none !!! :D [/QUOTE]

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