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Message: [QUOTE="RENEY444, post: 7290644, member: 177745"] If you are really starting from zero you can try to win a few pennies online from freerolls . The bigger sites, like ACR in the United States have freerolls running all day long( and 'aiofs ' where you can win step tickets). It will be a long ,slow grind but getting a few dollars isnt that hard . Then try your luck in the tiniest cash games , and if successful eventually move up to sngs ,and small MTTs. Live poker is really hard to grind from a tiny bankroll start since the rake in all the casinos /card rooms ( at least where i live ) is almost impossible to overcome at small stakes . Even in the small , live MTTs the house usually takes a huge cut ( 20% and way more is common ,and most of those that enter dont even realize how bad it is ) . If you are good and get some luck you might get enough to play bigger MTTS where the cut is only 10% . In my opinion thats the best route to a real bankroll . [/QUOTE]