I can't wait to watch this on Sunday...

califantasy · Nov 27, 2008

...but I think it will make me ill.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/25/60minutes/main4633254.shtml
http://www.pokerkingblog.com/2008/1...atebet-superuser-scandals-to-run-this-sunday/
Any thoughts?

SAH89 · Nov 27, 2008

See thats why the cheaters are idiots, they have to fold some hands, which even though they are winners, without knowing the opponents hand look like crap.

Oh, and cheating is wrong.

OzExorcist · Nov 27, 2008

odds on this turning out to be a hatchet job on online poker as a whole?

We're obviously not going to see it over here but the facts of the case are already public record.

Comments in the link are well amusing, BTW

tpb221 · Nov 28, 2008

'60 Minutes' and UB/AP Cheating

For anyone interested, this Sunday the news program '60 Minutes' is doing a report on the UB/AP cheating scandal. Here's a link to a preview.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4633262n

pantin007 · Nov 28, 2008

this story is going to portray poker in such a bad light, it will discourage new ppl (new fish) from playing and that makes me sad

SavagePenguin · Nov 28, 2008

Thanks. I set my DVR to record it. Should be interesting.
This can not good for online poker though.

I'm interested to see if they highlight the security precautions that other sites have implemented.

bryan24 · Nov 28, 2008

This is old news . CBS is just now getting around to it ????

tpb221 · Nov 28, 2008

CBS is slow. I don't think this will be good for online poker, but I'm interested it what people think after it air.:hmmmm2:

zachvac · Nov 28, 2008

Well they are interviewing guys on our side, and apparently they did the best they could to help portray us in a good light. Now it's up to the editors over at CBS. Do they feel like trashing online poker or are they going to try to give a fair and balanced honest view?

OzExorcist · Nov 28, 2008

bryan24 said:
This is old news . CBS is just now getting around to it ????

Yep

I gather it was filmed during the wsop in July and was originally scheduled to run during the election campaign. Guess they thought it was more important to cover that and delayed it.

jroyfus · Nov 29, 2008

great we finally will get some national exposure.

to bad it will only be negative though grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

i wish they would leave us alone,

i want to play poker wherever i want dang nabbit

bolda3 · Nov 29, 2008

Yeah I heard about this. This is an amazing story and the video where the screen shows ever player's cards is also amazing! Totally unbelievable

buckster436 · Nov 29, 2008

ok just put a reminder on my hd box,, if its truthfull it will be ok, but if 60 minutes edits it,,it might comeout as being a bad thing,, ill be interested how it unfolds, hope its good for US poker players, buck

jrosekcs · Nov 29, 2008

just had a guy at the tourney last night tell me about this story...just what the politicians neeed, another reason to "protect" us from ourselves

DaFrench1 · Nov 29, 2008

Would someone post this on youtube pls?

Theblueduce · Nov 29, 2008

Thanks for the info...Will try to watch it...See..another examle of a great site....

califantasy · Nov 29, 2008

OzExorcist said:
Odds on this turning out to be a hatchet job on online poker as a whole?

$2.05 to show. I already clicked on a post-interview interview where the 60 minutes commentator keeps referring to online poker as an illegal activity.

califantasy · Nov 29, 2008

DaFrench1 said:
Would someone post this on youtube pls?

There will be a link on 60 minutes website the day after it airs to stream it. If no one beats me to it, I'll post it here when I get home from work on Monday.

(Damn secured networks at work--can't get to email, forums, or anything related to poker

tpb221 · Nov 29, 2008

califantasy said:
(Damn secured networks at work--can't get to email, forums, or anything related to poker

Now that should be illegal

insolitude · Dec 1, 2008

Story | Video

Also: Washington Post investigative reporter Gilbert M. Gaul answers your questions about his reporting on Internet gambling, joined by Serge Ravitch, an online poker player and one of the "detectives" in the Absolute Poker scandal.

milkman28 · Dec 1, 2008

thanks 4 the link very intresting

dj11 · Dec 1, 2008

The final edition aired last night and included info not publicly released till about 3 weeks ago, that being the only named perpetrator in the scandle.

The overall story, IMO, was tilted toward the scandal (not good), but did point out the self policing qualities of the internet poker community. Not as bad as I feared, but for anyone not sticking to the whole story, they will only have seen the scandal part.

DaFrench1 · Dec 1, 2008

dj11 said:
The final edition aired last night and included info not publicly released till about 3 weeks ago, that being the only named perpetrator in the scandle.

The overall story, IMO, was tilted toward the scandal (not good), but did point out the self policing qualities of the internet poker community. Not as bad as I feared, but for anyone not sticking to the whole story, they will only have seen the scandal part.

That's a bit of a rose-tinted view. Tilted towards the scandal? What I saw was that the scammers made about $20 mil from players, a poker pro involved, and no criminal investigation in progress and none likely because no-one has jurisdiction over Kanhwake. That's pretty shocking. Basically we game on these sites at our own risk and with no come-backs.

Video available on Pokertube btw.

califantasy · Dec 1, 2008

Here is the link to the 60 minutes article for any who missed it, or cannot see the program in their country:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4639016n

I can't wait to watch this on Sunday...

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