I just ran across site that Tests "Is Your Site Rigged" (only Ipoker did not pass)

WEC · Apr 8, 2013

I just ran across site that Tests "Is Your Site Rigged" (only Ipoker did not pass)

Online Poker Watchdog

Networks that Passed All Tests:

PokerStars - no evidence of bias found: pass
Party Poker - no evidence of bias found: pass
Ongame Network - no evidence of bias found: pass
Merge Network - no evidence of bias found: pass
Entraction Network - no evidence of bias: pass
Bodog - no evidence of bias found: Pass

i-Poker Network - NOT ALL TESTS PASSED!
The result from 2 million hands showed a bias of over 4.2 standard deviations in favour of dominated hands. This result should occur due to variance only once in approximately 53,500 tests.

Widespread testing of 16 million more i-Poker hand samples from a variety of games and stakes showed no significant bias therefore it could not be concluded that the tests were failed outright

WVHillbilly · Apr 8, 2013

The guy who runs this site posts in the rigtard thread occasionally. Usually just a link to the site whenever they have a new result or whatever. As usual no one listens.

bbyfce85 · Apr 8, 2013

what about Carbon i dont see anything about that site

Indian Givah · Apr 8, 2013

Carbon is merge. I don't see revolution there tho

bbyfce85 · Apr 8, 2013

ok thank you!!!! i should have known that

Zin · Apr 8, 2013

Very interesting...

RamdeeBen · Apr 8, 2013

lol

Nothing that interesting really tbh.

steveiam · Apr 8, 2013

Nothing to see here...lol

snklzona · Apr 8, 2013

My question is if say in the merge testing were all merge sites tested or just one...not that I really am giving credence to this but wouldn't all merge need testing to clear merge across the board...I'm just saying...gl to all (eveen those at the rigged site)...lol

WVHillbilly · Apr 8, 2013

snklzona said:
My question is if say in the merge testing were all merge sites tested or just one...not that I really am giving credence to this but wouldn't all merge need testing to clear merge across the board...I'm just saying...gl to all (eveen those at the rigged site)...lol

All merge sites share the same deal since they all play against each other. Therefore if one Merge site has a clean deal, all Merge sites have a clean deal.

dmorris68 · Apr 8, 2013

snklzona said:
My question is if say in the merge testing were all merge sites tested or just one...not that I really am giving credence to this but wouldn't all merge need testing to clear merge across the board..

Yeah as WVH said, Merge is one network with the same client software across all skins and the same backend infrastructure. It isn't possible for one to be "rigged" and not the rest, or vice-versa.

snklzona said:
I'm just saying...gl to all (eveen those at the rigged site)...lol

Read the OP again. iPoker wasn't declared as "rigged." It had a statistical anomaly over the first 2M hands, but the next 16M hands stood up to expectation. Therefore no conclusions can really be drawn.

NeverEnough · Apr 8, 2013

ACR has to be rigged

masondub · Apr 9, 2013

NeverEnough said:
ACR has to be rigged

Lol, I would like to know if WPN was tested.

WEC · Apr 9, 2013

WVHillbilly said:
The guy who runs this site posts in the rigtard thread occasionally. Usually just a link to the site whenever they have a new result or whatever. As usual no one listens.

I didn't know that, cause I never visit that thread

Yeah, I had never heard of such a site before yesterday

WVHillbilly · Apr 9, 2013

It's no problem to have a separate thread for it. The true believers will just ignore it anyway.

Zorba · Apr 9, 2013

Interesting, thanks WEC

MadMaddie · Apr 9, 2013

WEC said:
i-Poker Network - NOT ALL TESTS PASSED!
The result from 2 million hands showed a bias of over 4.2 standard deviations in favour of dominated hands. This result should occur due to variance only once in approximately 53,500 tests.

So does that mean AQo is the nuts on IPOKER?

postflopper · Apr 9, 2013

I'll start switching rooms once there's evidence with a 100million hand sample. 2 million is nothing.

WVHillbilly · Apr 9, 2013

postflopper said:
I'll start switching rooms once there's evidence with a 100million hand sample. 2 million is nothing.

2 million was obviously chosen because it was enough to be statistically significant. The guys behind that site aren't stupid.

EvertonGirl · Apr 9, 2013

Titan will never get my $$$$ if things are not improved

Personally I don't believe any are rigged. I just know I am rigged

The only thing that annoys me about Titan (ipoker) is their annoying support that harass you as soon as you log in to their client to deposit. I have told them I am skint and have not got the money to deposit, which they say "I understand blah, blah, blah, for them just to do it again later!! RME.

ChronicFish · Apr 9, 2013

what about betonline?

aa88wildbill · Apr 9, 2013

I for one am glad we have sites like watchdog. It's only a matter of time before the new random generators are busted! It's a fact it will happen.

FastOne · Apr 9, 2013

I'd like to have it tested at Revolution.

BTW, I like ipoker.

DunningKruger · Apr 9, 2013

Old. iPoker is terrible btw. Hate that company as a whole.

The thread about this (not here) was somewhat interesting. IIRC the most accepted explanation was bots sharing hole card information amongst themselves.

matolife10 · Apr 10, 2013

pokerstars is rigged.. their sistem is weird.. i have experienced so many times like playing 4 tables and having same cards on all 4 (coincidende right?) same colours same 2 cards in 4 tables.. or same flops it is possible to happen every now and then but it happens to much time that i get one hand on table 1 then fold it and then i miricaly get same hand as in table 1 that i folded.

I just ran across site that Tests "Is Your Site Rigged" (only Ipoker did not pass)

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