I Know It's Been Whispered Before But Durrrr Broke?

S93 · Jan 31, 2009

switch0723 said:
but he has no bracelets sindri, so he is therefore equal to phil laak ldo

lol,but seriously dont be knocking Laak he is the man

The Shrog · Jan 31, 2009

Who's durrrr?

switch0723 · Jan 31, 2009

laak is the man, my gf doesnt have a wsop bracelet

anytwocantyou · Jan 31, 2009

Durrr ain't going broke. but I have seen that luckbox suck out so much it makes me jealous.

diamond_06_06 · Jan 31, 2009

vanquish said:
he doesn't need to have 15 mil on fulltilt in order to have a bankroll of 15 million DUCY

Bingo

RogueRivered · Feb 1, 2009

I don't get it. When I check Poker Table Ratings, type in durrrr, all I see is a graph that goes mostly straight up, +$7.3 million. Where is this so-called downswing? And why do people call him "durrr" when it seems to be "durrrr" (4 r's)?

Crystal Blue · Feb 1, 2009

Crystal Blue said:
So what's the deal with Tom Dwan, does he play exclusively on Full Tilt?
Does he play mostly on Full Tilt?
Does he play a lot on Full Tilt?
Do we know the answer to these questions?
I think you all know what I am getting at. One of the biggest things stated is the HUGE amount of hands he plays. So what's the deal with 56k hands over that amount of time?
It doesn't add up does it.

Unless there is something I am missing?

vanquish said:
what are you talking about? he plays on stars as well, but they don't run games that are as high stakes as fulltilt, so when he can get action at full tilt, he plays there (read: most of the time).
also what do u mean the "HUGE amount of hands he plays... doesn't add up"? what doesn't "add up" about it? the guy plays as many of the highest stakes tables as there are running, so he can get lots of hands in.
i really don't get what you're implying...

First of all, what part of the six question marks in my post don't you understand? <<<<<<<<<< Look theres another one.
It is usually a good indication that the person posting is actually asking a question.
Moving on, if I am implying anything, as you put it, it would be that many posters in this thread have stated with relish that Dwan plays HUGE amounts of hands. Please read back if you don't believe me.
Not only that, but on numourous occassions a link to tableratings is used to back up most of those claims.

So what I am "implying" is, that's a years stats from tablerating and shows Dwan with 56K hands over that time. If it's not a years stats it is 9 months stats ( 4.1.08 ) I don't know if that means January or April.
Anyway, if its a years stats, that means roughly 153 hands a day average.
If it's 9 months stats, that means an average of about 205 hands a day.
I am fully aware those are just his Full Tilt stats but those are the stats that everyone seems to be linking to this thread. Basically, if those stats are HUGE in terms of the amount of hands he plays ( like lots of people keep saying ) then I am "implying" how can this be the case when his daily average is no more than 200 hands a day.

So in answer to your first question, that is what I am talking about. In answer to your second and third questions, my expaination to those questions can be read above. ^^^^^

pantin007 · Feb 1, 2009

^tableratings only shows hands for nlhe ring games. they do not cover omaha and other games and durrr was grinding a hell of a lot more before tableratings started tracking. go to highstakes db to see how much hands hes played of 25/50 and up

DaFrench1 · Feb 1, 2009

pantin007 said:
^tableratings only shows hands for nlhe ring games. they do not cover omaha and other games and durrr was grinding a hell of a lot more before tableratings started tracking. go to highstakes db to see how much hands hes played of 25/50 and up

That was good timing to mention that site!

http://www.highstakesdb.com/765-ontherize-wins-370k-and-durrrr-wins-330k.aspx

Crystal Blue · Feb 1, 2009

pantin007 said:
^tableratings only shows hands for nlhe ring games. they do not cover omaha and other games and durrr was grinding a hell of a lot more before tableratings started tracking. go to highstakes db to see how much hands hes played of 25/50 and up

That's perfectly fine and I never doubted it. Part of my point reflected what has been submitted in this thread so far, and so far as his stats go.
Like most things in life you can only base your judgement on the evidence put in front of you. That is one of the points I was making.

It's obvious that Dwan's stats go far beyond what he has done on Full Tilt and what tableratings show. But in the most part, that's all that has been offered up in this thread so far.

I guess we can conclude that those stats are just a part of his total online dealings. How much of his total play is from Full Tilt and nlhe alone is hard to say percentage wise.
But even if we suggest it is something like say 20-40% overall, then we can conclude the proof being offered up in this thread so far, only equates to that percentage.

I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that he is the biggest winner in online poker currently, and I hope he remains a big winner in the game for a long time to come.
Maybe what I am saying is that if people here want to convince others that they are so wrong, sometimes it's easier to do so by showing them more than just a percentage of the facts.

Crystal Blue · Feb 1, 2009

Good, now I think we are finally getting somewhere.

nomasburros · Feb 1, 2009

i wish i had a mill or 2 to blow like him...wouldnt that be nice....especially in the downturn of our global economy...seems hard enough to just get by...it kind of pisses me off to see someone just ditch 3 mill to the game of poker...but i guess if that is your profession..thats the price of your overhead idk....

iamthepush · Feb 1, 2009

nomasburros said:
i wish i had a mill or 2 to blow like him...y...it kind of pisses me off to see someone just ditch 3 mill to the game of poker... idk....

DUDE, don't ever turn on your TV if this pisses you off

Wolfpack43ACC · Feb 1, 2009

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Today, 2:57 AM [IMG]https://www.cardschat.com/image.php?u=27570&dateline=1231626177[/IMG]brianvoytek [IMG]https://www.cardschat.com/images_fb/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/IMG] vbmenu_register("postmenu_1067562", true); Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2007Location: Perris, CAPlays at: Full TiltLikes: NL Hold emPosts: 153 Just like I said before, watch him play for awhile. When I watched him play he put his money in with the worst and just called off a lot of money to Ivey. (This is this week too.) As for the David B statement, I didnt say David was better. I'm talking about how he's been running now. People are high on Dwan for running good and being up, why not talk about David running good or Ziig? More hands then Doyle? Who cares. There was no internet then. Can you imagine If Barry Sanders played back in the 50s? He would've had 9345893453 yards rushing. lol These are different times now, so seeing more hands then someone who's basically "The God of the Game" doesn't hold much weight. Dwan on TV wasn't much. He sucked out on Phil in the HU Challenge then acted like a child (not a 19-20 year old whatever he was at the time) who said over and over "play me heads up...play me heads up." He's trying to hard to get there and with his ego and everyone whos hyping him up doesnt help. Remember a kid named Stu Ungar?__________________ FT ID: BlovesL

Wowzers you're actually trying to say someone who's playing some of the biggest stakes in the world against some of the world's best players makes stupid plays? You actually don't understand that playing 500/1000 NL against Ivey means you have to play A LOT different then you would 50 NL? Do you even imagine how far some of these guys think outside the box? It takes sooooo much skill, talent, hard work and discipline to beat the toughest games like durrrr has been, you just have no right whatsoever to question a play these guys make.

Seriously, why do you think everyone has so much respect for him, because he's been running good for 3 years and variance has finally caught up to him in the last 2 weeks? That's just complete ignorance imo. I even remember Ivey saying he thought he was an underdog playing durrrr heads up.

And lol, durrr acted like a child? Not Hellmuth just walking around telling everyone who'd listen that he sucked and was a lucky idiot when the hand was played absolutely by itself? Those 2 aren't even anywhere near the same level as far as skill is concerned. Durrrr is so much better it's kind of funny.

Just a thought, maybe you should just consider Zach, who obviously knows a lot more about poker and how it should be played, was right about everything he said in this thread and get a clue? I don't even know why I'm bothering with this post, it's pretty obvious you won't change your mind even after every single point made by Zach was much better articulated than anything you said in this thread, so whatever. Just keep on keeping on...

Ivey said he was probably a dog based on the stipulations just so you know. Durrrr has made rules to the challenge that favor him and his style of play. I'm still trying to figure out why this turned into a pissing match between Durrrr fan boys and Durrrr haters? I was just trying to spark a legitimate discussion. As for Zach, why are you crowning him? Just because he plays a little cards doesn't always make him right. I've seen him play before. He's a good player, but he isn't even the best in this forum.

switch0723 · Feb 1, 2009

fwiw, the biggest losers for hte month of january in the high stakes games were

Durr
Ivey
LarsLuzak
OMGclay
Trex/Antonius (i think it was 1 of those as number 5 but can't remember)

so ye, looks like all of hte worlds top players are going bust

pantin007 · Feb 1, 2009

switch0723 said:
fwiw, the biggest losers for hte month of january in the high stakes games were

Durr
Ivey
LarsLuzak
OMGclay
Trex/Antonius (i think it was 1 of those as number 5 but can't remember)

so ye, looks like all of hte worlds top players are going bust

<3 antonius

iMaGiN. · Feb 1, 2009

Btw was wondering, how did Durrr build his BR, from big MTT win(s) or all Cash?

Hosentroger1 · Feb 1, 2009

Im pretty sure he will end up busting his roll.
He s so arrogant that if someone challenges him for a headsup game for 10 mill.. He will do it... He thinks he s better than everyone and he ll do anything to prove it.

vanquish · Feb 1, 2009

Hosentroger1 said:
Im pretty sure he will end up busting his roll.
He s so arrogant that if someone challenges him for a headsup game for 10 mill.. He will do it... He thinks he s better than everyone and he ll do anything to prove it.

so why hasn't someone challenged him to a heads-up game for 10 mil yet?

bw07507 · Feb 1, 2009

To all u guys saying that durrrr makes a ton of bad plays and is always getting his money in bad, you are obviously better than him and know a better optimal strategy for playing the nosebleeds so grind up through the stakes (Shouldn't take too long since you obviously have a strategy better than durrrrs and he moved up pretty damn quick) and go up there and own him.

zachvac · Feb 1, 2009

Wolfpack43ACC said:
He's a good player, but he isn't even the best in this forum.

lol wtf who on this forum is better than basically the guy who's won the most all time at the nosebleeds?

switch0723 · Feb 1, 2009

Inscore77 · Feb 1, 2009

Wolfpack43ACC said:
Ivey said he was probably a dog based on the stipulations just so you know. Durrrr has made rules to the challenge that favor him and his style of play. I'm still trying to figure out why this turned into a pissing match between Durrrr fan boys and Durrrr haters? I was just trying to spark a legitimate discussion. As for Zach, why are you crowning him? Just because he plays a little cards doesn't always make him right. I've seen him play before. He's a good player, but he isn't even the best in this forum.

Who is the best?

naruto_miu · Feb 2, 2009

Wtf happend to this thread? Only caught alittle of this page, but something about Zach not being the best on this forum? Something down the lines of Durrrr going broke? And somewhere down the lines of he gets his money in bad?

How did this happen again?

naruto_miu · Feb 2, 2009

Hey all just found this interesting interview with Ivey, most have prolly already heard for those who have'nt enjoy.

Quick question about it though, ivey keeps saying someone is going broke? Does he mean actually BankRupt broke, or just challenge broke? I don't even know how you can go broke 50k NL cash game challenge broke (Can someone tell me if I am misunderstanding, what he means)?

http://www.pokerroad.com/tuesdays_with_ivey/1-6-09/container.html

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