Implied tilt odds

Have you ever tried this as a strategy, be it in a live game or online:

Purposely play like a donk and try to get lucky on someone to get them to tilt and help build a table image.

Then solidify your game and have them tilt off a lot more $$ your way.

I haven't but the other day I went to go play live, I sat down, viewed everybodys stack. The guy across from me had around $700 in chips (this is 1/2 NL with a max buy in of $100) -- so I figured he was a great player.

Then as time passed, this guy played so many hands it was insane, he pissed off a lot of players and even though he played ridiculous hands, he still ended up breaking even, then out of the blue he started playing tight and caught some people by surprise, leaving the table with over $1000! -- So I went from thinking he was great, to thinking he was a total donk, to seeing he actually was a great player lol.

IcyBlueAce said:

I haven't but the other day I went to go play live, I sat down, viewed everybodys stack. The guy across from me had around $700 in chips (this is 1/2 NL with a max buy in of $100) -- so I figured he was a great player.

Then as time passed, this guy played so many hands it was insane, he pissed off a lot of players and even though he played ridiculous hands, he still ended up breaking even, then out of the blue he started playing tight and caught some people by surprise, leaving the table with over $1000! -- So I went from thinking he was great, to thinking he was a total donk, to seeing he actually was a great player lol.

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Wow lucky guy. I think this strategy can work both ways. Sometimes when you try to pull a bluff off, players at the tables will not give you as much credit for your hands.

its easier to tilt someone in real life i think, you can win and smirk at them across the table and flip over your bluffs right in their faces... just my opinion.

As for OP, I never tried stuff like that but I guess it could work if you played it right... dont ask me how :O lol.

salim271 said:

its easier to tilt someone in real life i think, you can win and smirk at them across the table and flip over your bluffs right in their faces... just my opinion.

As for OP, I never tried stuff like that but I guess it could work if you played it right... dont ask me how :O lol.

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Yeah, I don't want to get beat up and honestly I feel to embarrassed if I do that on purpose in real life. : )

I'm never really a fan of these types of strategies.

They basically assume that your opponent will over-adjust to your stratagy in a predictable manner and that you will correctly anticipate his adjustment and pre-emptively adopt the correct counter strategy.

Against decent players this is possible because whatever adjustment they make will be within the realms of a winning strategy so it can be correctly anticipated and countered.

Against bad players this isnt really the case, they dont necessarily make any logical adjustment to your strategy, they may simply shift from one losing strategy to another and that adjustment may not be predictable. In essence they arent trying to counter you they are simply doing something different to what they were doing before.

Id rather keep a bad player playing his usual bad style than prompt him to make unpredictable adjustments.

People dont seem to realise that bad players are difficult to predict simply because they are not playing in a profitable manor, this means they are highly erratic.

Good players are far less erratic because they have far fewer options available to them, because the fact that they are winning players means that the do not adopt -ev statagies as often as their bad counterparts.

I think you can certainly profit from someone who has over-adjusted or has simply gone on tilt, but I dont see as you gain all that much by actively trying to push them in this direction because its difficult to tell how they will actually react to what you are doing.

IcyBlueAce said:

I haven't but the other day I went to go play live, I sat down, viewed everybodys stack. The guy across from me had around $700 in chips (this is 1/2 NL with a max buy in of $100) -- so I figured he was a great player.

Then as time passed, this guy played so many hands it was insane, he pissed off a lot of players and even though he played ridiculous hands, he still ended up breaking even, then out of the blue he started playing tight and caught some people by surprise, leaving the table with over $1000! -- So I went from thinking he was great, to thinking he was a total donk, to seeing he actually was a great player lol.

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Yep... that's essentially the strategy I'm talking about. I've used it to some good effect in live play and especially in a home game where I play the same folks every time. I try to keep an image of a total donk/maniac - loose & donk off a lot of small pots, and a couple big ones here and there... then get them for their whole stack when they decide to make a stand at the wrong time against my set.

I think the ability to tilt people and get them to make mistakes that they wouldn't normally make against other opponents is the difference between playing poker and playing cards.

IcyBlueAce,i agreed to his strategy since there are many peoples tilt easily..use that to go against them would win you lot of the money.