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Message: [QUOTE="DS3, post: 5926048, member: 407846"] Agreed. Many on the CC forum (well poker players in general) assert hard work and application will get you to the top in poker. Unfortunately the reality is otherwise. Most here work hard and apply themselves and will enjoy varying degrees of poker success - but few will end up near the top. That takes innate skill and a huge dollop of luck, with luck being a factor many do not what to recognize. But nearly every pro I have heard interviewed talks about a specific tourney turning point where they made a big score, could relax in terms of bankroll and then even swap pieces and attract backing to play at a higher level. [/QUOTE]