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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1767127, member: 23910"] N'yeah, much though it pains me I've got to agree with others on this point - I don't think the "Phil can only play hold 'em" criticism is a fair one anymore. He's obviously worked a lot on his mixed games in recent years. All of his runner up finishes this year were in non-hold 'em games and he's had deep runs in previous years too in PLO, PLO8, HORSE and stud events. And events like the $50K player's championship hardly have soft fields... That said I don't know if I'd go as far as saying he's at the same standard as the other three on OP's list when it comes to mixed games. Probably a crapshoot among those three as to who's best but I'd give it to Seidel based on experience. [/QUOTE]