Jungleman Justice Site

Dan Jungleman Cates and I have a website that exposes poker players who dont pay their debts/scam and always welcome new additions of offenders as long as it comes with a lot of proof. However, I wont post the site unless a mod gives me permission as it seems some forums arent keen on links to other sites.

How do you know Cates?^^
I doubt that you both operate such a website.
You alone maybe

I think this is a red herring

Hmmm seems like a real trustworthy guy https://www.cardschat.com/news/daniel-cates-online-poker-scandal-90442/ <----just another high stakes POS scammer and cheater himself. Hopefully CC doesn't allow a link in this case.

Fwiw like poker sites there's VERY VERY VERY few high stakes players I'd trust. Can only think of 2 off the top of my head and both are named Phil Galford/Helmuth.

Cheers!!!

G0930 said:

How do you know Cates?^^
I doubt that you both operate such a website.
You alone maybe

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Well,...I could post our months of telegram messages between each other. You could simply look at his twitter and see his posts about the purchase of my site for partnership,...or you simply could ask him yourself on his various platforms. I also work with him on promoting our scammers site and his poker training site enterthejungleverse. Ive been exposing poker scammers for 8 years now and have been interviewed on Joey Ingrams and Pokerfraudalert podcasts and also collect poker debts (and other debts) and have recovered over 700 thousand dollars for people in 8 years (tons of references if you want those).

Anyways, its all good, clearly no one is interested and its all negative so I wont bother anyone with the link. Best of luck to everyone at the poker tables

hitanktank said:

Well,...I could post our months of telegram messages between each other. You could simply look at his twitter and see his posts about the purchase of my site for partnership,...or you simply could ask him yourself on his various platforms. I also work with him on promoting our scammers site and his poker training site enterthejungleverse. Ive been exposing poker scammers for 8 years now and have been interviewed on Joey Ingrams and Pokerfraudalert podcasts and also collect poker debts (and other debts) and have recovered over 700 thousand dollars for people in 8 years (tons of references if you want those).

Anyways, its all good, clearly no one is interested and its all negative so I wont bother anyone with the link. Best of luck to everyone at the poker tables

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U got like 3 answers and this means clearly noone is interested and it's all negative? That's some pretty thin skin presented by u and I recommend u to work on that. Many other members are maybe interested in those links.

hardongear said:

Fwiw like poker sites there's VERY VERY VERY few high stakes players I'd trust. Can only think of 2 off the top of my head and both are named Phil Galford/Helmuth.

Cheers!!!

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I think there are quite a few who are trustfull and swap money with each other all the time without any problems.

Did u ever had any personal dealings with a high stakes player or why would u come to such a conclusion?

Suns of Beaches said:

U got like 3 answers and this means clearly noone is interested and it's all negative? That's some pretty thin skin presented by u and I recommend u to work on that. Many other members are maybe interested in those links.


I think there are quite a few who are trustfull and swap money with each other all the time without any problems.

Did u ever had any personal dealings with a high stakes player or why would u come to such a conclusion?

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A. Im bopolar with high level borderline personality disorder and i wouldnt change it for the world. Its helped immensely in collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars in debts.
B. Its never, not ever your place to tell me what to work on
C. Every single poker forum except PFA greets me with negativity about outing scammers so ya aftet 8 years of it i get pissy

hitanktank said:

Dan Jungleman Cates and I have a website that exposes poker players who dont pay their debts/scam and always welcome new additions of offenders as long as it comes with a lot of proof. However, I wont post the site unless a mod gives me permission as it seems some forums arent keen on links to other sites.

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Why would anyone ever lend money to a poker player? Ask Maria Ho!

Bro, main thing is transparency. If someone scams or doesn’t pay debts, others should know. High-stakes poker runs on trust.

What do you all think? Exposing scammers helps or waste of time?

ankurdholakiya said:

Bro, main thing is transparency. If someone scams or doesn’t pay debts, others should know. High-stakes poker runs on trust.

What do you all think? Exposing scammers helps or waste of time?

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Appreciate this post. Thanks. If ppl want ill post if not all good

Suns of Beaches said:

U got like 3 answers and this means clearly noone is interested and it's all negative? That's some pretty thin skin presented by u and I recommend u to work on that. Many other members are maybe interested in those links.


I think there are quite a few who are trustfull and swap money with each other all the time without any problems.

Did u ever had any personal dealings with a high stakes player or why would u come to such a conclusion?

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Nope. Good for you. It works right up until it doesn't and then you're screwed outta money and you never see it again. History shows me to never trust anyone with my money specially higher stake poker players and gamblers.

Cheers!!!

hitanktank said:

Dan Jungleman Cates and I have a website that exposes poker players who dont pay their debts/scam and always welcome new additions of offenders as long as it comes with a lot of proof. However, I wont post the site unless a mod gives me permission as it seems some forums arent keen on links to other sites.

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I've never come across any poker scams in general. There were a few poker sites that simply refused to pay me my money. But as for the players themselves, I haven't met such scammers yet. I hope I never will
But those who are informed are in a safer and more profitable position.

hardongear said:

Nope. Good for you. It works right up until it doesn't and then you're screwed outta money and you never see it again. History shows me to never trust anyone with my money specially higher stake poker players and gamblers.

Cheers!!!

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Yes I mean it's for sure a risk and I wouldn't exchange high amounts of money with someone I don't know personally or without escort.

And sure there are multiple Threads on 2+2 with scams but compare those to all the exchanges that take place without problems, those scams are still in the minority.

And those threads alone are not enough ground to come to the conclusion that most highstakes players are not trustworthy.

Phil Hellmuth (a guy u mentioned as overly trustworthy) is famous for selling shares with ridiculous markup and he also promoted Bitcoin Latinum, a shady crypto project that failed, jfyi.

good idea. name and shame

I mean if you're gonna post a persons name in the title of your post and claim to know him it doesn't strike

me as unusual to be asked how you know him....., blindly believing is how people get

scammed in the first place is it not...🤔👍

hitanktank said:

C. Every single poker forum except PFA greets me with negativity about outing scammers so ya aftet 8 years of it i get pissy

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You'd think they would welcome it....

I've been following a bit of Dan's posts on 'X' re: outing scammers.

Suns of Beaches said:

Yes I mean it's for sure a risk and I wouldn't exchange high amounts of money with someone I don't know personally or without escort.

And sure there are multiple Threads on 2+2 with scams but compare those to all the exchanges that take place without problems, those scams are still in the minority.

And those threads alone are not enough ground to come to the conclusion that most highstakes players are not trustworthy.

Phil Hellmuth (a guy u mentioned as overly trustworthy) is famous for selling shares with ridiculous markup and he also promoted Bitcoin Latinum, a shady crypto project that failed, jfyi.

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& UltimateBet

Dont lend and dont borrow . Its that easy

Suns of Beaches said:

Yes I mean it's for sure a risk and I wouldn't exchange high amounts of money with someone I don't know personally or without escort.

And sure there are multiple Threads on 2+2 with scams but compare those to all the exchanges that take place without problems, those scams are still in the minority.

And those threads alone are not enough ground to come to the conclusion that most highstakes players are not trustworthy.

Phil Hellmuth (a guy u mentioned as overly trustworthy) is famous for selling shares with ridiculous markup and he also promoted Bitcoin Latinum, a shady crypto project that failed, jfyi.

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There's also plenty of stories over the last 20-30+ years of avg random people playing other casino games like blackjack and such where Helmuth has borrowed money from people at the table and they've always been paid back. In those stories he send someone up to the safe in his room right away to get the money. They get paid back within mins. I've never heard a single story of Helmuth not paying his debts back. UB was all Russ Hamilton. As crypto if one is stupid as rock and allows them shelves to get scammed messing with crypto....I guess that's consequences of being a stupid fool.

Personally I've always been very careful with who I've loaned money since I got my first lesson back when I was 16 years old and loaned someone I thought was a friend $20. 52 years old now still waiting for the $20. Since then I've trusted exactly 4-5 people with money. None of them gamble or play poker and all them are family with the exception of 1 close friend I've known since grade 3.

With all that said if I was sitting at a blackjack table or other casino game table and Galfond or Helmuth and they went broke and wanted to borrow a few bucks I'd certainly likely loan it to them. I'd also likely trust Moneymaker even though he's a sponsored pro at ACR. Which is known for bots and plenty of other stretchy shit. Moneymaker does like Helmuth have a history of paying all his debts to people despite his very questionable choice of poker sites.

Cheers!!!

In my opinion, there are a small number of poker players involved in fraud, these are probably those who have a commercial interest in poker rooms.

hoping people can offer an opinion on this
Jungleman Cates wants the website completely redone in a "satire" manner with a medievil theme, Monty Pythonesque. He says it will help him avoid liability. The site is still completely in my name and I couldnt give a rats ass about liability, if someone wants to sue me go hard, Im stink poor with no assets. If they want to charge me, oh well, not my first time down that block.

I personally think its an awful idea as scamming and stealing is a serious thing and I want to keep the site the way it is

thoughts?

hitanktank said:

hoping people can offer an opinion on this
Jungleman Cates wants the website completely redone in a "satire" manner with a medievil theme, Monty Pythonesque. He says it will help him avoid liability. The site is still completely in my name and I couldnt give a rats ass about liability, if someone wants to sue me go hard, Im stink poor with no assets. If they want to charge me, oh well, not my first time down that block.

I personally think its an awful idea as scamming and stealing is a serious thing and I want to keep the site the way it is

thoughts?

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Well if he wants to expose people for scamming and use his name for it there is no way to avoid a certain liability.

Complete weirdo idea imo.

its just my site again, Cates is way too much a demanding handful to work with

hardongear said:

Hmmm seems like a real trustworthy guy https://www.cardschat.com/news/daniel-cates-online-poker-scandal-90442/ <----just another high stakes POS scammer and cheater himself. Hopefully CC doesn't allow a link in this case.

Fwiw like poker sites there's VERY VERY VERY few high stakes players I'd trust. Can only think of 2 off the top of my head and both are named Phil Galford/Helmuth.

Cheers!!!

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Somehow I feel the same , having difficulty just to find a legitimate authentic poker/casino site period.