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Message: [QUOTE="cdidit622, post: 1582038, member: 72856"] I hear a lot of people say " luck" in poker but then go back to talk about percentage of hitting flops and etc. I really think you can't believe in both . Me personally I may say doing a game, " man you got lucky" . But honestly luck only takes place in a number of hands ( manily when an opponent is all in) The reason I say this is because people judge poker " luck " by things like " Man you always get dealt a high pair", Man you hit the flop again" and much other situations. In reality how can any of those situations NOT be skills? They played the hand as you should play " high pairs" or " suited connectors". When in reality if they didnt use the skills to play the hand the way they did, another hand that was force to fold would have more then likely win. So yes there are plays where you may verbally express it was luck but in the long run poker ( cash games, tournaments and online ) starts with skills. [/QUOTE]