***Nocturnal November Chat Thread***

[Jurn8]

lol 25 Im on a slight downswing shall we say!

need to get through it!

 

[blankoblanco]

lockdooooown!

 

[Debi]

Sorry daks i couldnt win, please dont ban hammer me...

I know - I watched some of it and then saw the last couple of hands. You played well - congrats on 2nd.

and welcome to the dark side hehehehehehehe

 

[S93]

I know - I watched some of it and then saw the last couple of hands. You played well - congrats on 2nd.

and welcome to the dark side hehehehehehehe

thx.
Im on track to make the BOTP high orbit, still havent gotten a good low orbit going.
Main reason i hated STTs is cause of the varience but when i 8-10table it evens out alot quicker.
But yeah im sure that im gonna start hating it again in a couple days and convert again...

 

[Debi]

Yea..but you will come back.

 

[Emperor IX]

Sorry I haven't been on, moved earlier this week and my computer desk broke, so I don't have anywhere to put it right now.

 

[NineLions]

Anyone else planning to play the 1/4 mil on Stars this Sunday?

Usually I de-register after getting there via 210 FPP sattie, but this time I thought I'd give it a go.

IF im around ill play it. Its a total donkfest though.

Can't be worse than the CC Party freeroll?

 

[JimmyBrizzy]

see you next week, lik

hi.

i did take my money off of pokerstars. i have about $7 on FT. what you guys were arguing about makes sense. the swings and BE stretches should definitely affect players that don't handle as much volume.

between workin full time, going to school at night, gf, other excuses, blah blah blah.... i just can't handle the 10,000 hand break-evens/downswings like you guys. particularly when i play roughly 30,000 hands a year. it's just too frustrating.

i obviously can't stop playing because i am a "user." haha, well i feel like im addicted if that is possible. i love the game and ill probably just stick to playing micros for fun when i have the time.

forgive me?

 

[tenbob]

Anyone else having trouble downloading the FT update ? On the verge of just heading out to the pub to watch Ireland get beaten by France Was gonna play the 30K GTD and the CCCoHE game.

 

[Debi]

hi.

i did take my money off of pokerstars. i have about $7 on FT. what you guys were arguing about makes sense. the swings and BE stretches should definitely affect players that don't handle as much volume.

between workin full time, going to school at night, gf, other excuses, blah blah blah.... i just can't handle the 10,000 hand break-evens/downswings like you guys. particularly when i play roughly 30,000 hands a year. it's just too frustrating.

i obviously can't stop playing because i am a "user." haha, well i feel like im addicted if that is possible. i love the game and ill probably just stick to playing micros for fun when i have the time.

forgive me?

Or you can join us on the dark side.

 

[KerouacsDog]

Anyone else having trouble downloading the FT update ? On the verge of just heading out to the pub to watch Ireland get beaten by France Was gonna play the 30K GTD and the CCCoHE game.

yeah, had the same problem on my desktop and laptop, so uninstalled software on both and reloaded from fulltilt site. works ok doing it that way.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

hi.

i did take my money off of pokerstars. i have about $7 on FT. what you guys were arguing about makes sense. the swings and BE stretches should definitely affect players that don't handle as much volume.

between workin full time, going to school at night, gf, other excuses, blah blah blah.... i just can't handle the 10,000 hand break-evens/downswings like you guys. particularly when i play roughly 30,000 hands a year. it's just too frustrating.

i obviously can't stop playing because i am a "user." haha, well i feel like im addicted if that is possible. i love the game and ill probably just stick to playing micros for fun when i have the time.

forgive me?

I can't tell you how much I understand this. Especially right about now. I am also a frequent, but low volume player. And even down at the minimicros I will go on a downswing or just flat for a long time and it can be quite painful.

But for me, I came to understand WHY I play poker. It is not for income. It is not to be a "baller" or a grinder. Though I have respect for those who do take the game to that level.

I play it for FUN. And I play it to WIN. And I just play it because I love the game. Sure I like having the money it produces, and I hate when I go on a downswing, but the money is, for *me* only a part.

So yeah... I forgive you, though I don't think there is really anything to forgive.

 

[cardplayer52]

YouTube- Black and Blue

thought this rocked.

 

[Juniorsdaddy]

My ambitious month has turned into an epic failure.

My bankroll is down 75% due to variance catching up with me. Over the last month, I had found great success playing short yet intense higher level sessions. However, I was warned by several of you on this site that a downswing would eventually come. I, of course, ignored the warning signs until a good chunk was gone. I moved down one level, and then another, but I still kept losing.

So, I am starting from square one with what's left of my roll. I still feel I can succeed at limit cash games, but I still need to learn the nuances after finding initial success. I've come back from worse.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

I don't play donkaments, so it's not really for me, but you MTT players should check out the new video serie started by timex on cardrunners. It's supposed to become 7 parts replay of a $250k MTT win, hand by hand, from start to finish.

 

[Jagsti]

Giving serious thought for having a go at Supernova Elite next year. I will make my mind up in the next 4 weeks or so. Hated myself for not doing it this year.

 

[tenbob]

You gonna play fulltime Jag ?

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Seriously, jag? Wow... how many VPPs do you have at this time of the year? Does that mean playing a little more than this year or ridiculously more?

HEM tells me that if I played 100% on PS, I would have reached SN at the end of October. Guess I'm not really a high volume player.

 

[Jagsti]

You gonna play fulltime Jag ?

Plan is to combine it with work for the 1st 3-4 months, then hopefully I will be able to take a career break in work and concentrat full time on da pokaz.

Seriously, jag? Wow... how many VPPs do you have at this time of the year? Does that mean playing a little more than this year or ridiculously more?

HEM tells me that if I played 100% on PS, I would have reached SN at the end of October. Guess I'm not really a high volume player.

I will have to increase my volume by a ridiculous amount.

If I play 100nl I will have to play approx 250k hands/month. At 200nl prolly about 175k hand/month.

So, there's still a long way to go before I make my decision. But basically, the way I see it, by month 3, just on milestones and fpp's alone I will earn min $7400/month regardless of winrate.

The only thing I do ok at poker is play volume. I really think I can give this a good go. Hopefully I will have the bankroll to accomplish it, we'll just have to see. But I'm taking this very seriously.

 

[Debi]

Good luck if you decide to do it! Didn't you do this in 2008?

 

[Jagsti]

Good luck if you decide to do it! Didn't you do this in 2008?

Nah Debs, I got to Supernova, which I achieved again this year. SNE is way beyond that milestone. Worth approx $115k

 

[Debi]

Have any of our members ever achieved SNE?

 

[Jagsti]

Nah, I dont think so.

 

[Suited Frenzy]

Nah, I dont think so.

Well then that gives you even more drive to make SNE Jag.

It would be nice to say that you're the only 1 out of 60k+ members of a forum to reach such a milestone.

But, I think you're going to enjoy the money that you earn a lot more lol

GL man :top:

 

[F Paulsson]

Nah Debs, I got to Supernova, which I achieved again this year. SNE is way beyond that milestone. Worth approx $115k

I don't want to be the naysayer, and I'm certainly not in any position to tell people not take time off of work to play poker, but I think you should do some serious soul-searching as to whether volume is really the way for you to make $115k next year. If you can break-even (otherwise it's obviously not worth $115k) while playing THAT many hands - which requires of course that you play a ton of tables for many hours every day - then you should really be able to make a ton of money playing fewer tables, table selecting rigorously and spending the extra hours on working on your game instead of grinding.

I think people in general vastly underestimate just how much of an edge they give up when they multitable heavily. And I think anyone who's capable of breaking even over 250k hands/month should be able to have win-rates of over 10bb/100 at the midstakes if they just put some of that grinding time into it. And if you can win a buy-in every one thousand hands, you'll make $115k in less than a quarter of the volume you're talking about - and with much less (negative) variance.

But I wish you luck no matter what you choose to do.