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Phil Hellmuth is kind of bad at the pokers
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[QUOTE="BrentD22, post: 947923, member: 27126"] I think it's really odd that poker players that think they are smart can say that Phil is a bad poker player or ever was. He has basiclly crushed the biggest tournament series in poker history (WSOP & all prelim events). I can't stand the guy, but he is really good at poker no question. Recent history of event wins for Phil. Take note he doesn't play in as many events as others anymore. He still plays a lot of volume, but his results can't be argued. TournamentPlaceWinnings[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsope/2008/event2"][COLOR=#0000ff]2008 WSOPE, Event 2, H.O.R.S.E.[/COLOR][/URL] 12th£6,188[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2008/event54"][COLOR=#0000ff]2008 WSOP, Event 54, Main Event No-Limit Hold'em [/COLOR][/URL]45th$154,400[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2008/event51"][COLOR=#0000ff]2008 WSOP, Event 51, H.O.R.S.E. [/COLOR][/URL]3rd$93,168[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2008/event47"][COLOR=#0000ff]2008 WSOP, Event 47, 7-Card Stud Hi-Lo 8-or-Better [/COLOR][/URL]33rd$2,895[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2008/event32"][COLOR=#0000ff]2008 WSOP, Event 32, No-Limit Hold'em[/COLOR][/URL] 71st$6,604[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2008/event28"][COLOR=#0000ff]2008 WSOP, Event 28, Pot-Limit Omaha w/Rebuys [/COLOR][/URL]8th$100,292[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wpt/season6/la-poker-classic"][COLOR=#0000ff]WPT Season 6, L.A. Poker Classic[/COLOR][/URL] 6th$229,820[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2007/event52"][COLOR=#0000ff]2007 WSOP, Event 52, No-Limit Hold'em w/re-buys[/COLOR][/URL] 95th$4,840[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2007/event45"][COLOR=#0000ff]2007 WSOP, Event 45, No-Limit Hold'em/Six Handed[/COLOR][/URL] 31st$13,344[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2007/event34"][COLOR=#0000ff]2007 WSOP, Event 34, Limit Hold'em[/COLOR][/URL] 25th$7,7619 [URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2007/event28"][COLOR=#0000ff]2007 WSOP, Event 28, No-Limit Hold'em[/COLOR][/URL] 6th$76,464[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wsop/2007/event15"][COLOR=#0000ff]2007 WSOP, Event 15, No-Limit Hold'em[/COLOR][/URL] 1st$637,254[URL="http://www.pokerlistings.com/live-tournaments/wpt/season5/wpt-world-championship"][COLOR=#0000ff]WPT Season 5, WPT World Championship[/COLOR][/URL] 18th$123,76 I know watching him play on TV it seems he's lost a lot in those high stakes cash games. Here's a little secret thos games are not "real" poker. Yes they are playing for real money, yes they keep the money, but professional poker players don't sit around and play the best players every night. Some of the big time players play in the big game, but there is always a catalist (big money player that isn't a pro player). They are not usually playing each other. The best skill Phil has is exploting players that are not as good as him (one of the most important skills IMO). He's made just under $10 million in tournaments and I'm sure many times that in side games. If you think anyone that can make that much money at poker and still thinks he isn't any good your crazy. When he takes insurance he looks like a fool, but think about it this way. He pays somewhere between 5-10% of the pot he is favored to win to a insurance giver. Most times he just looses that 5%, but on the times he gets that bad beat he still wins the pot size - now these are HUGE pots. It does 2 things for him. He's sure he will win at least 90% of the current pot. Not too bad to MAKE sure you will win. The other thing it does is protect him against loosing large pots and having it affect his game. How often have you lost a big pot on a miracle river and then blow off your stk. TOO OFTEN FOR ME!!!! Plus most of the time when he's acting up it's for the camera. The other times he does it he's trying to get into the heads of the other players. Believe it or not there are players that start playing so tight and scared when there Phil starts doing his thing that he can start stealing blinds all day long cause their nervous to be critized by Phil. He can manipulate people into doing things they wouldn't normally do. There is no arguing that the guy with the most WSOP cashes, the most WSOP final tables, $9+million in tournament earnings, and the most in endorsment deals name is Phil Hellmuth and he is a great player! If he's not that good at poker I would like to be just as good as him, even if he is an A-HOLE! [/QUOTE]
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