Players from Spain with $2 stacks

khicks26 · Oct 29, 2010

i play 10 nl, and these players from Spain all play the same way.
they sit with $2, wait for a hand like any pair AK, AQ or suited broadway cards to shove there $2 stack. then if they win, they leave as soon as its there turn to post blinds.

its not just 1 or 2 players. its most of the players from Spain. does anybody know whats up with this.

is it some kinda short stacking poker school. i just don,t see how this is a profitable way to play poker. its like wasting your good cards.

if anyone knows whats up, please do tell.

BelgoSuisse · Oct 29, 2010

Stop playing on a site that allow shortstacking scumbags. FTP won't let you buy in for less than 35bb for instance. Boycott rooms that allow less than that.

khicks26 · Oct 29, 2010

no dude there all over full tilt. with $2 stacks or $4 in rush poker.

kevkojak · Oct 29, 2010

Just a standard hit-and-run strategy. Minimum buy-in, camp for a couple of rounds of blinds waiting for a monster, then just jam 'em in hoping for a double through
Its generally a good strategy for players who have no idea how to play post-flop, and/or have tiny bankrolls.
Occasionally I'll play the 'double up and go' strategy if I'm really low on funds, but if you want to play proper poker, steer clear of the short stack tables (40BB's) and get involved with the high stack games (100BB minimum buy-in). The $2 jockeys won't have a clue how to play them if all they know is shove or fold.

Poof · Oct 29, 2010

khicks26 said:
no dude there all over full tilt. with $2 stacks or $4 in rush poker.

Are you looking at the shallow tables? They have those now so all the shorties can play with themselves.

onemorechance · Oct 29, 2010

For Spaniards, the number two is very lucky, so I assume that's the reason

khicks26 · Oct 29, 2010

PooffyFooffy said:
Are you looking at the shallow tables? They have those now so all the shorties can play with themselves.

no, i 10nl rush poker on tilt now. were they have to buy in for $4. but there still there. just not as much.

atlantafalcons0 · Oct 29, 2010

khicks26 said:
no, i 10nl rush poker on tilt now. were they have to buy in for $4. but there still there. just not as much.

That's what was said, the minimum is 40bb's.

In your example it was 20bb's.

forsakenone · Oct 29, 2010

yeah i have to play vs those retards too, the only downside of their strategy is that you can't make a lot of money and you aren't learning much either.

plus, to your benefit you can steal a lot of blinds from them since they only shove like 14% of their hands.

cool32steve · Oct 29, 2010

Pokerstars 10NL and above you can filter tables to only show tables that with 40-100bb buy ins, and tables with 100-250 bb buy-ins. You can choose to stay away from tables that allow 20bb buy-ins.

5TR8 FLUSH · Oct 29, 2010

FTP is known for having people that do exactly that, I only do that when I have a very small bankroll. I don't insta-shove with big cards, the only time I shove is when I get re-raised or post flop.

edsam1 · Oct 29, 2010

Hi, although I'm English I live and play on line from here in Spain. I generally play on Partypoker and can't say that I've come across all that many Spanish that play in the way that you describe. Granted there seem to be many Belarusins,Russians, etc etc that do seem to sit and wait for a premium hand before shoving but they are easy to spot. There are several articles in the strategy section that give sound advice when playing against those sort of players. Don't make it good odds for them to call, isolate them and take them to the felt with better hands. I think that at whatever level you play the all in shove is good weapon in the right situation, it's no different what ever size of stack the villan has the size of your stack determines how much you can win or lose, it's all experience. Regards Ed

kmixer · Oct 29, 2010

Are these people getting callers to these shoves. I would think they would b as easy to spot as a KKK member at a Black Panther rally and everyone would fold to them unless they also have AK KK or AA

edsam1 · Oct 29, 2010

You are spot on. The only problem is, unless you already know them, you don't know until its too late. There again its probably best to fight their aggression with as you say AA or AK etc. Use your superior poker skills to negate their limited strategy. I suppose that if there are that many employing this strategy they must find it financially rewarding.

khicks26 · Oct 29, 2010

kmixer said:
Are these people getting callers to these shoves. I would think they would b as easy to spot as a KKK member at a Black Panther rally and everyone would fold to them unless they also have AK KK or AA

i will call there shove with 10s or better, and AK. there not that hard to spot or beat if your getting cards. they are mostly a pain when you raise in EP with a small pair or AQ, and have to fold to there $2 shove.

i really just wanted to know why most of these players are from Spain, and why they play this way. i just find it odd. like they are a group of players all playing the same way. i have see them on many differant sites.
what is up these guys?

khicks26 · Oct 29, 2010

atlantafalcons0 said:
That's what was said, the minimum is 40bb's.

In your example it was 20bb's.

what are you in need of some posts to get in the freeroll or something.in rush poker 40 bbs. normal tables 20bbs. this may have changed on tilt.i only play rush now, and have not been at the regular tables there were most of these guys are.

khicks26 · Oct 29, 2010

edsam1 said:
Hi, although I'm English I live and play on line from here in Spain. I generally play on Partypoker and can't say that I've come across all that many Spanish that play in the way that you describe. Granted there seem to be many Belarusins,Russians, etc etc that do seem to sit and wait for a premium hand before shoving but they are easy to spot. There are several articles in the strategy section that give sound advice when playing against those sort of players. Don't make it good odds for them to call, isolate them and take them to the felt with better hands. I think that at whatever level you play the all in shove is good weapon in the right situation, it's no different what ever size of stack the villan has the size of your stack determines how much you can win or lose, it's all experience. Regards Ed

most of these guys are from spain. i don,t notice that many other players from those countries doing it. but i may be wrong.

you know what they say: once one guy does it, they all start doing it.
nothing wrong with it. i just want to why, and why they are mostly from spain.

khicks26 · Oct 29, 2010

one more thing, if you play these limits. watch out that you don,t step in the 2 dollar hole.

joe steady · Oct 30, 2010

twodollarushamentslol.
If you're playing rush, it seems like your pf calling range is cool, I probably wouldn't be calling with 1010, but that's just me. What time do you play? If you're playing at 5pm CST you might just be getting all the euro guys who want to gamble. I don't think there's some sort of "Spanish ShortStacking Conspiracy," you may just be encountering Spanish bar time or whatever. Thanks for the heads up, tho.

edsam1 · Jan 19, 2011

Spanish players with small stacks

Hi, I currently live in Spain (retired) but am English. Until I saw several of the posts about short stacked Spanish players( mainly on .05/.1 stake tables or below) who wait for any pair or or an ace under before shoving all in I had not really noticed just how common their strategy was. I play on FT and PP for small stakes and both sites have a lot of these players on them. I now look for the tables with this type of player.
If you play disciplined ABC poker and wait for the right spots it is fairly easy to take money from these players. The best ploy is to wait, unless you have a premium pair ( 10's and above)pre flop, until you have seen the flop and call their shove with a reasonable hand. Success rate with this strategy is above 80% and will grow your bankroll over a short period.
I must add that not all Spanish players use the wait for an ace and shove strategy, some ( mainly on the .1/.25 and above tables play decent poker.
Ed

Goodwooter · Jan 19, 2011

its simple...2 dollar freeroll win!

midgetfactory · Jan 22, 2011

Im sorry in advance but i have often used this strategy if i have a low bankroll. i think unless its against the rules everyone should be allowed to play whatever way they want. if this is the only strategy these playrs know why should they have to change the way they play to play into the hands of all ye full stack sharks out there.? Simples?

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