Poker After Dark - Cash Game

zachvac · Jul 17, 2008

ok so wtf was going on there with the K2 vs. K5? Did Dwan really have that good of a read? If he had position I could see him calling the turn to bluff the river if checked to, but to be oop and call with bottom pair and then check the river, having minimal outs as well, wtf is he doing? Granted it would have been amazing had he called that river, but there's no way he can do that. Even if he has Hellmuth on a bluff, he could easily be bluffing with 33 or a lot more pocket pairs or even 7's here. I doubt he was even pondering a river call there, figure he was gonna raise or fold. I just really don't understand the turn call. He's played absolutely amazing to this point, but that one hand I really don't understand.

That said, if he had called on the river (or even raised and then shown) it would have been amazing. Hellmuth woulda gone crazy lol.

KidFlopadelic · Jul 17, 2008

Thanks for the heads up on this, I stopped recording it just last week too. I'm just glad those reruns are over with! IMO, the show needed a face lift anyway and cash games are MUCH more entertaining to watch.

Does anyone else get annoyed by the shows producers insistance that the hostess keep referring to the SESSION as 5 seperate nights of poker?

Just do like High Stakes and tell it like it is. Any monkey can tell it's just one session broken into 5 seperate segments for TV.

shookashookashooka...we're back

iMaGiN. · Jul 17, 2008

Wow...I about skeeted when I saw Dwan almost make that call on the river.

That was a great move by Phil though, the turning your hand as fast as possible...definitely woulda confused the shit outa me. But after he startered rambling about how it's a good thing he didn't raise on the river, that woulda be an instant all in for me. What a great read by Dwan, hes playing so impressive.

Woulda deff been the sickest call in Live Poker history.

blankoblanco · Jul 17, 2008

zachvac said:
ok so wtf was going on there with the K2 vs. K5? Did Dwan really have that good of a read?

i guess he must've. i don't know how else to explain it

maaan that would have been so amazing if he called. so close to maybe the biggest hellmuth blowup of all time

switch0723 · Jul 17, 2008

Havnt seen last nights episode

but in response to above, kenny tran has the sickest call in history imo from what ive seen after he called a turn and river bet with just q high on a A,4,5,2,t board i think it was and villain had 6,7. Was in hte main event last year

KingCurtis · Jul 17, 2008

icemonkey9 said:
In 5 years we'll see ChuckTs and Zach at this table. I'll be running NBC and FullTilt by then so I will not be eligible to participate.

lmao, this is true, although I will also be there, taking side bets and making more money then the players from betting on Zach and Chuck to win

Chris_TC · Jul 17, 2008

iMaGiN. said:
But after he startered rambling about how it's a good thing he didn't raise on the river, that woulda be an instant all in for me. What a great read by Dwan, hes playing so impressive.

Uh, wat? When he says that he's glad Dwan didn't raise it automatically means he's telling the truth?

As far as Dwan's "read" goes, he didn't have much to go by. Hellmuth doesn't usually get out of line, he had taken a break which got him off tilt, basically there was no reason for Dwan to believe Hellmuth is bluffing.
And let's not forget, he called with K2o OOP preflop. None of this is impressive in the least.

blankoblanco · Jul 17, 2008

Chris_TC said:
And let's not forget, he called with K2o OOP preflop.

nope, it was sooted!!!!!!!!!!!

unstoppable4 · Jul 17, 2008

daxter70 said:
phil and durrrr actually started long b4 the headsup match...that was just a dream draw and nightmare for PHILLY...loved every minute of it..which is about how long it lasted

I hope you aren't saying that Phil got outplayed by Dwan because in actuality Phil destroyed Dwan on NBC and should have won but AA couldn't hold up against 10 10. I will admit that the talk after that hand was classic with Dwan telling Phil to learn how to play NL holdem.

chink44 · Jul 17, 2008

Is this on pokertube yet?

I believe Hellmuth style works better for him in tournaments than cash games. I believe he is a good tournament player, terrible cash game player.

zachvac · Jul 17, 2008

unstoppable4 said:
I hope you aren't saying that Phil got outplayed by Dwan because in actuality Phil destroyed Dwan on NBC and should have won but AA couldn't hold up against 10 10. I will admit that the talk after that hand was classic with Dwan telling Phil to learn how to play NL holdem.

lol

hand winner = Durr
Money winner = neither, Durr, busted next round
Sklansky bucks winner = Hellmuth
Shit-talking winner = Durr

S93 · Jul 17, 2008

chink44 said:
Is this on pokertube yet?

I believe Hellmuth style works better for him in tournaments than cash games. I believe he is a good tournament player, terrible cash game player.

Yep its on the frontpage under newest uploads

baby kahuna · Jul 17, 2008

Isnt Phil married to a psychiatrist? Why doesnt he get some help?
What kind of makeup is Dwan using. Spooky.

daxter70 · Jul 17, 2008

unstoppable4 said:
I hope you aren't saying that Phil got outplayed by Dwan because in actuality Phil destroyed Dwan on NBC and should have won but AA couldn't hold up against 10 10. I will admit that the talk after that hand was classic with Dwan telling Phil to learn how to play NL holdem.

WOW...did i say dwan outplayed him...NO

l Love Beer · Jul 17, 2008

One thing i don't like about Dwan is that every time he bets/raise it looks like he is trying so hard just to lift and move his chips towards the pot. Guess it's just his style, but it looks like his arms can't quite take the weight of the chips.

daxter70 · Jul 17, 2008

welcome to value city...population you!!!

classic....and phil continues to rant

Monoxide · Jul 18, 2008

lol both episodes are on pokertube BTW.

The 2nd one is freaking amazing, I was like sad when it was over I want the next episode tommorow!!! this absolutely owns the old poker after dark loldonkaments.

The Shrog · Jul 18, 2008

My favorite part so far is from Episode 2:

Phil: "All of it. This is what I've been waiting for."
Allen: "I'm gonna call you, Phil."
Phil: "Thank you."

Monoxide · Jul 18, 2008

heheheh yea, set over set is so rare and brutal. I almost felt sorry for phil but then realized that hes rich and a jackass anyway.

dsvw56 · Jul 18, 2008

Monoxide said:
heheheh yea, set over set is so rare and brutal. I almost felt sorry for phil but then realized that hes rich, plays horribly, and a jackass anyway.

FYP

joos · Jul 18, 2008

If not a such bad river hits, and dwan makes call with k2 in a 3 bet pot, Phil would rant until next year

aliengenius · Jul 18, 2008

Leeann Tweeden seems a bit too "manly" for my taste...

Hynes1986 · Jul 18, 2008

the show only broadcasts new (aired on nbc) episodes on my sat at 6am! i've been watching the new episodes on pokertube and i was curious if the episodes are posted there as soon as they air ie. did season 4 episode 3 air last night??

daxter70 · Jul 18, 2008

joos said:
If not a such bad river hits, and dwan makes call with k2 in a 3 bet pot, Phil would rant until next year

Philly is gonna rant til next year anyways...about how good he is or how bad someone else is or what a slorolling bastard u are or what an idiot that person is or.....well u get the picture

creatorofYUM · Jul 18, 2008

what's durrr's real name?

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