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Message: [QUOTE="Holdem Tycoon, post: 6267847, member: 482493"] I think there are similarities, depends on the measured parameters. Speaking for myself, I know the game of chess well, played it a lot. I’m at best, a rookie against great players, No pun intended. We could play till the cows come home, I will not win 1 match against grand masters. Given enough lifetimes, I might be able to figure out and get a stalemate. I’m at the same “rookie” level in holdem against the master poker players, yet I’m confident with some luck that I could win the odd match heads up, What I draw from the above is, at a certain point, the master chess player removes luck from existing in chess. So experience can remove the element of chance in chess, however no amount of experience can completely remove the element of chance in poker. So they might have similarities from the observer point of view, but at the same time, can be viewed as having none at all. [/QUOTE]