Poker, Game of Luck or Skill?

savaxz · Apr 7, 2017

Distance will show you)
Fan of spin n go's)
You are fish))

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

Andrei Korolev said:
Skill, when you play with the hand you've been dealt.And good luck when you pull the ACE out of his sleeve.You have to play and not rely on chance.

If you do not rely on luck, but just wait for a good card, you can lose all of your stack. It happens when only 27, 38, 59, 49 different suits are distributed in the hand in a row

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

savaxz said:
Distance will show you)
Fan of spin n go's)
You are fish))

I know [emoji23]

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

savaxz said:
Distance will show you)
Fan of spin n go's)
You are fish))

But I try learning))

Edvardas · Apr 7, 2017

For me its skill, since its a game where we make choices, bet , call, fold , and you need make a good strategy, you need be good reading people and the better you get at those skills.

Samwell · Apr 7, 2017

In this case, luck was with you, but to draw a conclusion based on the results of one game spin-go, I think this is not true. Suggest closing your eyes to the theory and trusting in luck?

nitulbhatia · Apr 7, 2017

The more skillful you are the more dollars you will win. Gus Hansen was not skillful so he lost 21 million dollars in cash games online. Make sure you are skillful so you dont end up like Gus Hansen. Have a great weekend.

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

Edvardas said:
For me its skill, since its a game where we make choices, bet , call, fold , and you need make a good strategy, you need be good reading people and the better you get at those skills.

That's probably the most understandable and reasoned answer, why skill is better than luck.

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

Samwell said:
In this case, luck was with you, but to draw a conclusion based on the results of one game spin-go, I think this is not true. Suggest closing your eyes to the theory and trusting in luck?

I gave one game as an example. In fact it is often so. But maybe it's really that I do not have the skill and I have to rely only on luck

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

nitulbhatia said:
The more skillful you are the more dollars you will win. Gus Hansen was not skillful so he lost 21 million dollars in cash games online. Make sure you are skillful so you dont end up like Gus Hansen. Have a great weekend.

thanks for the advice. Then I will improve my skills.

weralomos · Apr 7, 2017

Aleksandr Sarpov said:
I've been thinking. Many say that victory depends on skill. I disagree. More precisely: skill is important, but luck is more important. Yesterday I played spin & go 1 $ buyin. At one point I had 20 chips left against 1480 and I was able to recoup and win. All because I was lucky and there was a good card. I think skill is important, but luck is more important. Anyone interested I can send the story of hands.
And what do you think is more important and why?

Luck you can't control.But the skills can improve:joyman:

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

weralomos said:
Luck you can't control.But the skills can improve:joyman:

Another factor in favor of the skill. Thank you.

avipokiri143 · Apr 7, 2017

It's a combination of both luck an skill.

Amdrius · Apr 7, 2017

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/luck-skill-more-important-310571/
This topic has already been discussed earlier in this forum. I think you'll be able to pick out from it for yourself a lot of interesting things.

max entropy · Apr 7, 2017

A person full of luck can win a small tournament without any skill.
A person full of skill but really unlucky can lose a small tournament.
Skill is a heavier factor for big tournaments.Luck is heavier for small tournaments.
The balance between those two is in the 'contents' of a great player,but there are many other factors like self awareness,ego,clarity and others which I can't call skills.

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

Amdrius said:
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/luck-skill-more-important-310571/
This topic has already been discussed earlier in this forum. I think you'll be able to pick out from it for yourself a lot of interesting things.

Thank you. I will definitely look at that topic. I also wanted to share my "Lucky" win.

Aleksandr Sarpov · Apr 7, 2017

max entropy said:
A person full of luck can win a small tournament without any skill.
A person full of skill but really unlucky can lose a small tournament.
Skill is a heavier factor for big tournaments.Luck is heavier for small tournaments.
The balance between those two is in the 'contents' of a great player,but there are many other factors like self awareness,ego,clarity and others which I can't call skills.

How best to get a good skill? Can books develop my skill or should I just play more with basic knowledge?

iudinvictor · Apr 7, 2017

Luck is secondary, and it is not permanent. And there are not always lucky people. So skill is most important in poker. Without the skill not to win.

grinya774 · Apr 7, 2017

Skill more important than luck!

Alexandr Svinarshyk · Apr 7, 2017

Luck is about 70% and all the rest is skill

Spripe · Apr 7, 2017

Yea definitely skill, that's why the same people are able to continuously win tournaments or final table them more often that others. Luck does play a bigger part in spins and hypers though

christiancjs · Apr 7, 2017

For me it is 70% skill and 30% luck in the long run.

bumerangue · Apr 7, 2017

Its defined by skill, but luck plays a good role in the game, of course. Just like someone said "I'm very lucky, but the funny thing its that the more I train, the luckier i get"

FeRRi0 · Apr 7, 2017

Its both - game of luck and skill. If you play right - you dont need luck, luck usually will help your opponents to get their backdor combinations

malakata19 · Apr 7, 2017

I think we should take into account that the way to play online poker and live poker is different and for this reason is based on luck. Online poker is more aggressive and players usually pay with bad hands more often than in a live tournament. Personally I have learned that skills are a very considerable factor in a long tournament and that without those skills you could not get much but never left the luck aside. Every player must be aware that he may need some luck in order to reach a final table or eventually win a tournament.

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