Poker: Game Theory, Mathematics, or Psychology?

pirucasjc · Jan 19, 2024

Poker: Game Theory, Mathematics, or Psychology?

ficticius · Jan 19, 2024

The good thing about poker is that it understands a little bit of all three parts you have to be good at all three to be good at poker

pirucasjc · Jan 19, 2024

ficticius said:
O bom do pôquer é que ele entende um pouco das três partes, você precisa ser bom em todas as três para ser bom no pôquer

It's true

s0ftdumps · Jan 19, 2024

What do you mean "or" ... it's "all".

A kiravio · Jan 19, 2024

Very difficult for me, but I have an opinion (at the moment) the result of all calculations is final only after the river and after showing the cards.The 1% chance seems a bit high to me🤔.
Psychology is essential for everyone, but it can be full of holes and gaps. You have to choose in such a way that you are satisfied with the action. 😴

dimon4ik89 · Jan 19, 2024

Poker is a combination of many factors. It includes game theory and mathematics and psychology and even a little luck. In order to be a good player, you must understand all these areas. Each person must understand for himself that in poker everything depends on how he assesses the situation and what decision he makes. At first glance, this is just a card game, but in fact, everything is much deeper, and people who have been playing poker for many years, I think, will agree with me. Thanks to this game, you can develop many personal qualities and skills.

Belliswolf · Jan 19, 2024

Be patient and wait in right the decision thats the key...

blueslate · Jan 19, 2024

The three are intertwined, however, the most important part is the psychological! Always try to improve it, with good psychology, it is easy to put the theory and mathematics of the game into practice.

NootNoot · Jan 19, 2024

All three.

I'd probably argue that mathematics and game theory are kind of the same thing. You can't have game theory without mathematics. It's what it's based on.

Psychology obviously comes into play. Bluffs, slow playing , big stack bullying everyone in a tournament etc.

odonob · Jan 19, 2024

Mostly luck I believe. Very little skill in the game. If you win it’s because you got the cards, the game plays itself. Like buying a lotto ticket. If you win you have been fortunate. A huge percentage of hands won are with a theoretical weaker hand. This negates the skill element of the game.

NootNoot · Jan 19, 2024

odonob said:
Mostly luck I believe. Very little skill in the game. If you win it’s because you got the cards, the game plays itself. Like buying a lotto ticket. If you win you have been fortunate. A huge percentage of hands won are with a theoretical weaker hand. This negates the skill element of the game.

I disagree with this up to a point. Of course there's a lot of variance, and luck/fortune plays a part but over the long run I feel the skill difference will show.

Not saying you're 100% wrong. Your opinion is as valid as mine.

If I felt the same as you I personally wouldn't play. I don't like games of chance. If I ever end up agreeeing with your point of view then I'll quit! I'd think that I might as well just play roulette, bingo, slot machines if it's all the same. I don't actually like to play those because of the sheer luck factor.

jonaselloco · Jan 20, 2024

I think all 3 are important.
The mathematical and possibilities options are the main ones.
Skill is also very important.
Luck happens in that by having a hand x that you go there and see the cards of your opponent who has more possibilities than you, you can win it with an inferior hand.
Luck is essential, especially to win a tournament.
I recently won a $2 entry tournament in GG poker, in which in 2 very important moments of the MTT I had 2 fairly lucky hands.
One was to enter ITM and I had 8 BB left and in SB I wanted to steal with A5o and I went all in and my opponent had AJs, he beat me preflop but in my favor the 5 came out on the flop and I won the hand.
And being 15 of 23 players in BN I make a reraise with QQ, the BB that beat me in the blinds goes there and the UTG that I had opened also called there. The decision was mine to call or not call, and I thought that the pot was too big not to call and that it could take me to the final table. I called and BB had AA and UTG had AKs and I hit the QQQ set on the turn.
So I reached the final table where after a great monster hand I placed myself in 1st place until last.
With that I want to tell you that the luck factor is also very important, it is not all skill, strategy and other virtues, because otherwise it would become a game like chess.
Greetings

letfmg · Jan 20, 2024

All three are very important

THFC · Jan 20, 2024

All three are important but I think a bit of luck as well with the cards

TableFable · Jan 20, 2024

online poker psyhological game .
Good nerveus - good play .

Bummy · Jan 20, 2024

I would say that it is psychology, the ability to read people, mathematics and calculating %, and luck

Ingryd · Jan 20, 2024

Psychology is really the key, but theory and mathematics are essential

freddsl · Jan 20, 2024

Add to these 3 a percentage of luck, and I think they would be the 4 legs of poker, without one of them you can even play, I think they are all part of it, some with a lower % than the others.

darkgonz · Feb 1, 2024

In fact poker had this perfect storm of strategy, numbers, and mind games that makes poker such a captivating game for me. Whether I'm playing casually with friends or competing in a high-stakes tournament, there's always something new to learn and explore.

yuriko oyama · Feb 1, 2024

In my opinion, psychology is what most differentiates who will stay alive in the deck.

yogo9 · Feb 1, 2024

Poker is a combination of the 3 ; theory, mathematics and psychology + skills and some luck.

martDdart · Feb 1, 2024

All three are important I use all of them to make decisions in poker and then I let my gut feeling make the final desicion.

SL-247 · Feb 1, 2024

Poker is three in one: math, psychology, and probability theory.

dannystanks · Feb 1, 2024

All three. If you say it’s all just luck then you are just misinformed.

Pityesz1974 · Feb 2, 2024

logic and psychology

Poker: Game Theory, Mathematics, or Psychology?

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