Poker Tracker for Sit 'n' Gos?

Beriac · Jun 9, 2006

Hey ya'll,

Question: I'm sure some people here use statistical hand/player-tracking programs like Poker Tracker.

Does anyone have any thought or comment about its usefulness in a SnG? Obvious problems include that players leave when eliminated, and that tightness/looseness changes as the number of players and blinds change.

Let's say you play the same type of SnGs regularly, but on a large site, so that you often see familiar faces but there are perpetually lots of new faces as well.

Thoughts anyone?

AceZWylD · Jun 9, 2006

Don't take my word for it, but I believe Poker Office tracks SnG's. I have never used it for SnG's, but I have used it for ring games and MTT's, so I am certain that it supports SnG's as well. Great program and will track every aspect of the game for you, including opponents style.

Stick66 · Jun 9, 2006

PokerTracker does just fine with SnG's.

IMHO, you get more from analyzing your own SnG play than your opponents' play since the situations do change, as you described. Although you CAN check your opponents' actions at specific blind levels, their stack size may affect their actions differently.

(FP could give you more on this.)

wsorbust · Jun 9, 2006

I know Poker Office tracks tournaments...including sit 'n gos...but I never saw a use for them with my strategy....unless of course you're just tracking your own play.

starfall · Jun 10, 2006

Either PokerOffice or PokerTracker should do the trick for SnGs... I find PokerOffice probably more useful, because it seems to be more useful for immediately gauging an opponents looseness, etc.

KaptainJim · Nov 11, 2009

I am thinking of purchasing poker tracker or Holdem manager myself for Turbo SNGs. I am thinking the same thing as beriac, that sngs go through low-medium-high blind phases which changes the play dramatically, contrary to the cash games. Can anyone with experience please give a good advice?? Are those programs useful for sngs?

serendipity · Nov 11, 2009

I'd like to know, is the data separable?

I mean, if I am in a sit-and-go, am I only seeing data collected from playing this guy in sit-and-go's, or will the data I see include his cash and MTT play as well?

If it is separable, how well does the filter work? Could I say, look at his data for all sit-and-gos, and then quickly switch to display only his data from sit-and-go's with entry frees greater than $50?

Pbland · Nov 11, 2009

Completely agree with serendipity. If I can see the stats based on the game type (sng, mtt, ring), then I think poker tracking software would be very helpful. Anyone know?

Pbland · Nov 12, 2009

Anyone use poker tracking software for sng's? Is it a big help or just some info ?

Jillychemung · Nov 12, 2009

I use PT3 for my HUD and always use it when I'm playing my SNGs on Stars. Since I multitable with all tables cascaded not tiled, I find it very useful for having a basic read on the players, VPIP & PFR Also it does help in identifying the regs.

KaptainJim · Nov 12, 2009

Jillychemung said:
I use PT3 for my HUD and always use it when I'm playing my SNGs on Stars. Since I multitable with all tables cascaded not tiled, I find it very useful for having a basic read on the players, VPIP & PFR Also it does help in identifying the regs.

yeah but how much are these stats representing a players game? I mean in early stages a player will probably have a very low VPIP and PFR while in the end these stats will be much higher. I think these stages mix up and give a false result. Does the program seperates the different phases?

TPC · Nov 12, 2009

No, it doesn't separate the different phases, but that's not what it's intended for. You should know your self later in the tourney someone is going to loosen up. And take that into consideration when seeing what their stats are.

Sean Pilgrim · Nov 12, 2009

Yeah you can still rely on the features in poker tracker, tournament indicator, etc. In a general sense. Like you stated, player will change up their playing styles. Some people like to play tight at first and get more LAG at later escalations. And others like to play loose at first and get more tight later.

In my personal opinion tools like these are better suited for ring games. But at times can be very helpful in tournament play. I would only use them for SnG's they don't do much good in large tourneys where you are likely to be moved to 5 - 6 - 7 different tables within an hour.

Jillychemung · Nov 12, 2009

KaptainJim said:
I mean in early stages a player will probably have a very low VPIP and PFR while in the end these stats will be much higher.

Player stats still vary a lot even in SNGs. You still see players with stats of 50/9 after a dozen or so hands. And for regs the long term stats are weighted toward their eraly game play. Also in SNGs later on ICM considerations are more important than player reads.

No Brainer · Nov 13, 2009

In holdem manager you can set it to track seperate data depending on the amount of people left at the table. So if you get to the bubble, the stats will reset and just the 4 handed data will be displayed, then you can set it to reset again at 3 handed or heads up aswell...

KaptainJim · Nov 13, 2009

Is there any program that can show the stats of a player in regard with how many BB his stack is?

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