Pokertracker v3 beta!!!

WVHillbilly · May 7, 2008

I've been playing with the HUD tonight and it's still flaky (only 4 tables) stats disappearing and such. I'm going back to PT2 and PAH till they get it straight.

dj11 · May 7, 2008

beta 11 fixed all the reasons beta 10 didn't work.

I'm picturing the guys over there frantically working 24/7, no 30 hours per day, 8 days per week to meet the May 15 release date. I'm still thinking may 22.

icemonkey9 · May 7, 2008

Well they said that beta 11 fixed all those issues but i am using it now and i am still seeing stats disappear and me being forced to constantly hit "reset" to bring them back. Annoying. I also think the "Fold to BB Steal" stat isn't working either.

beardyian · May 7, 2008

Ive noticed the stats tend to disappear in tourneys whenever the blinds go up, and in B10 i never had any personal stats for cash games

Hopefully they'll be back now

dj11 · May 7, 2008

Make a good effort to post your problems on the PT website. Also read the new improved FAQ's there.

Jagsti · May 7, 2008

Ok d/l beta 11. HUD seem a lot slicker and stats appear on all my tables now (18 tabling ). Hardly any LAG, which is good. So hopefully I can start using this on a regular basis.

It's still a little quirky, but I'm sure the guys at PT will sort the bugs out soon.

dj11 · May 8, 2008

Pricing has been set at $89.99 USD. See PokerTracker • View topic - purchasing via credit card or https://www.pokertracker.com/support/?cat_id=39 about payment options.

I read some mention about another beta before the scheduled May 15th release date. That would be beta 12, making the final release beta 13 !!!

beardyian · May 8, 2008

dj11 said:
Pricing has been set at $89.99 USD. See PokerTracker • View topic - purchasing via credit card or https://www.pokertracker.com/support/?cat_id=39 about payment options.

I read some mention about another beta before the scheduled May 15th release date. That would be beta 12, making the final release beta 13 !!!

Hmmm - not sure about that price

not for what i get out of it anyway

icemonkey9 · May 9, 2008

Yeah man the $89.99 price is waaaay higher than it should be. I can see $50 or even $60 but I think $70 is just pushing it way above and beyond reasonable expectation. I'm very disappointed.

Jagsti · May 9, 2008

Been using the HUD for a couple of days now and TBH it's still buggy as hell. There's lots of tables stealing focus which is a nightmare when your cascading 20 tables. I certainly hope they sort it soon.

tenbob · May 9, 2008

We still get the discounts if you bought PT2 right ?

GunslingerZ · May 9, 2008

tenbob said:
We still get the discounts if you bought PT2 right ?

Yes, but if you bought PT2 over 1 year ago, your discount is only 20% of your PT2 purchase price. Which is what, like $15?

royalburrito24 · May 10, 2008

EEK! $90 for that?
Maybe they can lower it for beta testers as well?

momoney2 · May 13, 2008

royalburrito24 said:
EEK! $90 for that?
Maybe they can lower it for beta testers as well?

I'm with you there. I was hoping for something more like $50 to $60. A discount for the beta testers would be great!

ChuckTs · May 13, 2008

PT2 was $55, you really expect PT3 to be the same?

The number of beta testers was probably equivalent to all of PT2 buyers and then some, you really expect everyone to get a discount?

PT3 is an top notch product with the best support in the business. $90 is more than worth it.

zachvac · May 13, 2008

ChuckTs said:
PT2 was $55, you really expect PT3 to be the same?

The number of beta testers was probably equivalent to all of PT2 buyers and then some, you really expect everyone to get a discount?

PT3 is an top notch product with the best support in the business. $90 is more than worth it.

But my question is since I already have PT2 and PAHUD, is it worth the $90 simply for the upgrade (or $75 if I get a 20% discount)? At this point I'm thinking not. Can someone convince me that the upgrades from PT2 to PT3 are really worth $75?

Munchrs · May 13, 2008

zachvac said:
But my question is since I already have PT2 and PAHUD, is it worth the $90 simply for the upgrade (or $75 if I get a 20% discount)? At this point I'm thinking not. Can someone convince me that the upgrades from PT2 to PT3 are really worth $75?

as far a sI can tell they have stoped the PT2 upgrades

??

zachvac · May 13, 2008

Munchrs said:
as far a sI can tell they have stoped the PT2 upgrades ??

At this point I really don't need an upgrade. My point was that buying PT3 would basically be an upgrade, since it seems like it runs a bit faster, has some stats like 3 and 4-bet, but is the faster run time and those stats plus whatever other differences there are worth $75?

beardyian · May 13, 2008

Now i haven;t been able to get cash game stats at all for the past few days on PStars using PT3

Other sites are fine though

WVHillbilly · May 13, 2008

You guys playing NL50+ don't think PT3 will be worth less than 2 buy-ins? Come on. Before you had to buy PAHUD for a seperate $25 (bringing the previous total to $80) so now it's $10 more. Also you get your discount on the total price you paid for PT2 and PAHUD.

I've already shipped them my $$. Just waiting for them to get the software right before making the switch to PT3 permanent.

I think most of the people complaining about the price only started using PT when this beta period started, so they've never had to pay for it.

dj11 · May 13, 2008

PT3 will do everything you old Poker Tracker does, and a bunch more, but as to whether that 'bunch more' is worth that much would be worth investigating.

As I never had PT2 with PAH, and noticed a difference once I got with the beta program, I was happy to formalize the whole thing with the new version. And in the process got a complete old version.

Oh yeah, BTW, with purchase you get the 'Anti-Doomswitch' option at no extra cost.

zachvac · May 13, 2008

WVHillbilly said:
You guys playing NL50+ don't think PT3 will be worth less than 2 buy-ins? Come on. Before you had to buy PAHUD for a seperate $25 (bringing the previous total to $80) so now it's $10 more. Also you get your discount on the total price you paid for PT2 and PAHUD.

I've already shipped them my $$. Just waiting for them to get the software right before making the switch to PT3 permanent.

I think most of the people complaining about the price only started using Poker Tracker when this beta period started, so they've never had to pay for it.

Oh if I didn't have PT2 I'd get it in a heartbeat. What it offers is certainly worth the money. The difference is I'm not getting the difference between nothing and PT, I'm getting the difference between PT2 and PT3, which I'm not sure is worth $75. I can continue to use PT2 + PAHUD for FREE or else pay $75 for a product that seems to be quicker, better-looking, and have 3 and 4-bet stats. I'm still on the edge, hoping someone can convince me that it's worth the $75, but no matter what stakes I'm playing, $75 is $75, which is a good amount of money. I'm willing to risk that kind of money playing poker because I know that it's worth it in that I'll most likely make more than I lose. With PT3 there seem to be a small number of upgrades, yet they're still charging me 80% of the price, $75.

zachvac · May 13, 2008

dj11 said:
PT3 will do everything you old Poker Tracker does, and a bunch more, but as to whether that 'bunch more' is worth that much would be worth investigating.

Yep, that's basically my question. What is the 'bunch more' and is it worth $75?

dj11 said:
Oh yeah, BTW, with purchase you get the 'Anti-Doomswitch' option at no extra cost.

WHAT? No one told me THAT. Ok that definitely makes it worth it, I'll be buying it as soon as it comes out

WVHillbilly · May 13, 2008

I understand what you're saying Zach, but the lack of updates to PT2 once PT3 is out will basically force you to upgrade. Stars will change their HHs slightly and break it and you'll have to pay for PT3 anyway.

In fact I hear the people at PT plan to PAY Stars to modify the HH files.

NineLions · May 13, 2008

zachvac said:
Oh if I didn't have PT2 I'd get it in a heartbeat. What it offers is certainly worth the money. The difference is I'm not getting the difference between nothing and Poker Tracker, I'm getting the difference between PT2 and PT3, which I'm not sure is worth $75. I can continue to use PT2 + PAHUD for FREE or else pay $75 for a product that seems to be quicker, better-looking, and have 3 and 4-bet stats. I'm still on the edge, hoping someone can convince me that it's worth the $75, but no matter what stakes I'm playing, $75 is $75, which is a good amount of money. I'm willing to risk that kind of money playing poker because I know that it's worth it in that I'll most likely make more than I lose. With PT3 there seem to be a small number of upgrades, yet they're still charging me 80% of the price, $75.

This was my thinking originally too, but at some point they'll stop supporting PT2, meaning at some point the next upgrade after that that Stars or Tilt makes that PT2 can't read it'll become useless.

They may continue to support site upgrades for 6 months, a year after PT3, but at some point they'll figure they've done enough and stop.

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