RULES

Hi all, can anyone help on poker rules?

I was at the golf club last night playing poker, 3 of us left in i am short stacked and first to act i push, the other 2 call, then say to each other check it down to get me out, GITS, fortunately i won and trebled up

Is this allowed?

They can certainly call down to try & eliminate you but negotiating during the play of the hand is collusion.

So not allowed then? they say you can at the casino, but i think not.

Its kin of an un-spoken rule in poker to check it down when the short-stack is all in to try and eliminate him/her. But really they shouldnt be telling each other, as i said its an un spoken rule to check it down and eliminate a player especially when close to the bubble. I certainly wouldnt be happy if i was at a table and 2 ppl openly discuss checking it down to eliminate me. Not fair play imo

I was playing at PokerStars today, 3 of us left, shortest stack went All in, I called with K 6s, and the 3rd guy called as well. I've hit a K on the flop but continued to check. We checked around all the flop, turn and river only to find out that the 3rd guy has hit a straight on the turn but still checked!
Once we were HU I wrote him nice check and he replied u2...
Checking down could be strategy, talking about it before or while it happens is not fair - I too wonder what will happen in a real casino if the players actually talk the other players to call for eliminating the short stacked player who went all in

well as kenzie said its collusion, so is it allowed?

nope

NOT allowed....it's collusion.....it is usually something that people who know how to play do....they check it down UNLESS one of them have a monster.

Yes they want to get the guy out...BUT, they also want to win, so on occasion you'll see a pro actually make a bet, but it doesn't usually happen unless he has the nuts.

jamesdadeliverer said:

nope

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Vega asked is it allowed and you said nope. Sorry but I dont know how to double quote.

Just curious since its not allowed is their a penalty for collusion? What would you do if you had money in it and someone was doing this but it was not online or in a casino?

To double quote click on the plus sign of one post (turns negative) then click quote on another post...or as many as you want in the order you want

Deadly Silent said:

Vega asked is it allowed and you said nope. Sorry but I dont know how to double quote.

Just curious since its not allowed is their a penalty for collusion? What would you do if you had money in it and someone was doing this but it was not online or in a casino?

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I went radio rental

This is something that really, really depends on the house rules. In any game run under TDA rules this violates Rule 33 (it'd be classified as soft play / collusion thereto) and the players responsible would be penalised.

Probelm is, the TDA rules aren't universal. So in cases like this you really need to refer to the floor person / tournament director / equivalent and ask for their rule.

Deadly Silent said:

Just curious since its not allowed is their a penalty for collusion? What would you do if you had money in it and someone was doing this but it was not online or in a casino?

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If it's verbalised then yes there should be a penalty.

The problem is that the penalty won't help you in this hand - if one is given, it'll take effect after the hand is over. So if you get knocked out by one of the colluding players, they may get a sit-out penalty starting on the next hand but you'll still be out of the tournament.

The penalty will most likely be getting sat out for a period of time, BTW. Exactly the same thing that you see on TV at the wsop when a player gets a penalty for swearing (like in the infamous Matusow / Sheiky incident at the 2005 Main Event). It's also possible they could just get a verbal warning, if it's their first offence or it wasn't deemed a major infraction or something.