Tilt?

Chips4Buds · Nov 27, 2012

How do you guys handle tilt?

Do you guys do any yoga or meditating?

What music you guys listen too?

youregoodmate · Nov 27, 2012

Practice. Playing with many BI's helps for me and a looking at my green line

pocketehs · Nov 27, 2012

^^^ totally agree with practice. The more you understand that no matter how well you play a hand and it just doesnt run out your way the easier it is to just get over it.

BLACKSTACK · Nov 28, 2012

i bitch,complain talk shit to the player that beat me lol,but i never donk out my stack,i see constantky players that loose a big pot,get rivered and go all in the next hands lol,also when i get rivered or loose big, i wait til i get good cards and try to build my stack up again

SYWTWAF · Nov 28, 2012

Tilt is mostly a non-issue for me. It helps to employ a kind of thinking where you're indifferent to specific instances of winning or losing (e.g. Aces got cracked? Cool, that's one instance of when they were going to lose out of the way. Next tourney plz!). I've largely internalized the mindset that results need to be considered in their totality; that I am not entitled to win any given hand, or profit from any one session. I also play games for which I'm comfortably rolled and fairly confident of my edge vs. the field. Seeing a general, continual upward trend in my graph can be encouraging, and I'm happy to do what I can to make it slope ever more steeply.

elblaaga · Nov 28, 2012

dude i would like to no the answer to that question myself. I got on tilt today so bad i was just dumping chips trying to get my money back

Chips4Buds · Nov 28, 2012

SYWTWAF said:
Tilt is mostly a non-issue for me. It helps to employ a kind of thinking where you're indifferent to specific instances of winning or losing (e.g. Aces got cracked? Cool, that's one instance of when they were going to lose out of the way. Next tourney plz!). I've largely internalized the mindset that results need to be considered in their totality; that I am not entitled to win any given hand, or profit from any one session. I also play games for which I'm comfortably rolled and fairly confident of my edge vs. the field. Seeing a general, continual upward trend in my graph can be encouraging, and I'm happy to do what I can to make it slope ever more steeply.

what site can i go to check out other players cash game stats?

IntenseHeat · Nov 28, 2012

The first step in dealing with tilt is recognizing it. I usually don't realize I went on tilt until it's over and I'm sitting back replaying the situation in my head. For instance, I was playing a .25/.50 game with a $50 max buy in. I noticed a lot of unfamiliar names that day and some ridiculously aggressive play. When I picked up K-K in the BB, my blind was raised from the cutoff. We went back and forth before getting them all-in pre. Of course my Kings lost to J-2 off. After having my Aces cracked a few hands later by some equally ridiculous hand, I left the table. But on the way out the front door, it occurred to me, that I would probably never see a table like this again, where every other hand someone was shoving their whole stack in with rags. I couldn't leave. Twenty minutes later, I was out $250.

In the aftermath, I realized I should have left the table before I ever lost the first quarter, as soon as I saw how those maniacs were playing. After all, a close frined of mine is constantly saying "You can't beat stupid". It wa hours later before I realized how on tilt I had been. Not playing bad tilt. I was never behind when the chips went in. I got 'em in good every time. I just refused to believe that these guys could keep getting that lucky. The only way to console myself was to remind myself that every penny of my bankroll was built on freeroll winnings. That was about four months ago. How did I deal with it. I'm not sure I have. I haven't played in a cash game since.

IntenseHeat · Nov 28, 2012

After a trip to the kitchen for snacks, and giving it a little more thought I would like to add that it is extremely rare for me to go on tilt. The example I described earlier being one of the exeptions. In fact, I don't tilt in tournaments, only in cash games where I can't believe people are playing the way they are with real money. It's like they've hacked someone elses account or must be using a stolen credit card or something.

As far as tournaments go, I'm not sure how to deal with being on tilt, but the way I keep from going on tilt is to never risk too much of my chipstack on any one hand. Then it's easy to shake it off when you lose a pot. I also avoid pre-flop shoves, even with monster hands like As and Ks. Of course, you're not going to lay those hands down when someone else shoves on you. You just have to be aware that every chip you put in the middle is at risk. I often remind myself of what Superchicken always told his sideckick, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred".

Chips4Buds · Nov 28, 2012

IntenseHeat said:
After a trip to the kitchen for snacks, and giving it a little more thought I would like to add that it is extremely rare for me to go on tilt. The example I described earlier being one of the exeptions. In fact, I don't tilt in tournaments, only in cash games where I can't believe people are playing the way they are with real money. It's like they've hacked someone elses account or must be using a stolen credit card or something.

As far as tournaments go, I'm not sure how to deal with being on tilt, but the way I keep from going on tilt is to never risk too much of my chipstack on any one hand. Then it's easy to shake it off when you lose a pot. I also avoid pre-flop shoves, even with monster hands like As and Ks. Of course, you're not going to lay those hands down when someone else shoves on you. You just have to be aware that every chip you put in the middle is at risk. I often remind myself of what Superchicken always told his sideckick, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred".

Took a pretty sick beat earlier. I had As Ks villian had Ad 2d and the stupid flop comes all diamonds. I cant even beat 4nl. How the hell do grinders live with themselves. What are the suicide rates for professional poker players? I started playing on BCP Nov. 13 i won free roll money and worked my way up to 62. Now i have 53 and i cant stand the dang swings man. How is everyone doing? are you guys up or down????

Arjonius · Nov 28, 2012

A big step for me was when I shifted my focus from trying to deal with tilt to early recognition of when I'm starting to feel like I might / will. The sooner I realize I'm headed toward tilting, the sooner I can act to prevent or mitigate the effects.

I've also found it helpful not to think of my poker funds as regular money. The degree to which I can do so can change pretty easily, so I adjust my buyin level accordingly.

micromachine · Nov 28, 2012

As said above, recognizing when you are tilting is crucial. You need to know what makes you tilt - suck-outs? Your own bad play? Losing X number of buy-ins? And you need to recognize what kind of plays you make when tilting, for example, getting too aggressive or calling too many 3bets. Then it's a question of having the discipline to take a short break to regroup, play a different game or lower limit, or stop playing entirely.

I found that tilt can last for multiple sessions/days so now I try to start each session afresh without thinking about the previous ones.

MIShroomer47 · Nov 28, 2012

Dealing with tilt constantly... but it's recognizable. I can feel when I'm tilting big time. i'm anxious to make back chips that I lost, rather than playing sensible and folding in the right spots. above poster said don't think of your chips as money... well it's true.. just play your game, play the cards, play the player... don't worry about the value. Fold when you know ur beat... go with the gut!

I remember the days when I didn't even know what tilt was... the novice days. Seemed like the more I learned the worse I did over the years... (or the competition got that much better than me) The more I played and saw horrible beats coming at me the more I tilted... I was so tilted, I quit online poker a couple of times for a LONG time. I'm just now coming back from a 1 1/2 - 2 year absence because I just kept tilting my money away when I would get run over.

I love the game, and I am coming to terms with u just can't win them all, sure I still get upset when I take a horrible river beat all-in... but as another player mentioned above... it's when we're all in we're at risk. SLOW THE EFF DOWN is what I keep telling myself now. Don't get married to TPTK, play small hands for small value, big hands for big value... I'm learning to play post-flop, and not pre-flop (anyone can preflop all-in) TIME TO LEARN!

youregoodmate · Nov 28, 2012

I also find if Im playing one table tilt makes no difference at all because Im always concentrating on the optimum way to play the hand. When Im multitabling I get far less time to think and therefore justofy plays in my head that I would otherwise think-out.

I dont ever get tilted by being out drawn, only by my own bad play.

AlfieAA · Nov 28, 2012

micromachine said:
As said above, recognizing when you are tilting is crucial. You need to know what makes you tilt - suck-outs? Your own bad play? Losing X number of buy-ins? And you need to recognize what kind of plays you make when tilting, for example, getting too aggressive or calling too many 3bets. Then it's a question of having the discipline to take a short break to regroup, play a different game or lower limit, or stop playing entirely.

I found that tilt can last for multiple sessions/days so now I try to start each session afresh without thinking about the previous ones.

+1

bullishwwd · Nov 28, 2012

IntenseHeat said:
After a trip to the kitchen for snacks, and giving it a little more thought I would like to add that it is extremely rare for me to go on tilt. The example I described earlier being one of the exeptions. In fact, I don't tilt in tournaments, only in cash games where I can't believe people are playing the way they are with real money. It's like they've hacked someone elses account or must be using a stolen credit card or something.

As far as tournaments go, I'm not sure how to deal with being on tilt, but the way I keep from going on tilt is to never risk too much of my chipstack on any one hand. Then it's easy to shake it off when you lose a pot. I also avoid pre-flop shoves, even with monster hands like As and Ks. Of course, you're not going to lay those hands down when someone else shoves on you. You just have to be aware that every chip you put in the middle is at risk. I often remind myself of what Superchicken always told his sideckick, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred".

IH, your 2 post were 'right on' mate ... the difficulty is to play the way you 'know" to be right and not ever fine yourself saying: "I knew better".

bz54321 · Nov 28, 2012

I have learned to control it over time. I do think its good for me to let it out it helps me to move on. You just have to learn to recognize it more than anything. Like last weekend on Sunday I felt like crap mentally so I was short with people and did not think threw my responses. Tilt is the same thing I just try to avoid people when i am having a bad day and I try to avoid poker when i am having a bad day.

Funny side note on Sunday I did go ahead and play anyway just in freeroles and I played horribly. But I did notice an odd thing so some times it helps you see the cards in a new light. The wacky thing was 6s I don't know why but 6s were wining every flip when the aces were chewed up. By this I mean I had pocket aces (this is Omaha by the way) and would flip with some one who had a 6 in there hand they would win. This happened 3 times in three different games. I don't think i would have noticed that in my normal state of mind.

bullishwwd · Nov 28, 2012

Chips4Buds said:
How do you guys handle tilt?

Do you guys do any yoga or meditating?

What music you guys listen too?

1. Recognize 'tilt' (and the reason for it if possible)
2. Take a break (yoga or meditation)
3. Re-focus
4. Play with a 'new' head

I don't use music (but probably good idea) ; My dog does yoga and he never tilts.

Wally

the_viper667 · Nov 30, 2012

Music is the quickest way for me. Turn up some metal and headbang it out!

detourglr · Nov 30, 2012

My ipod is one way..
I have a special playlist that includes..
Mike matasow-he was a donk.. http://www.homecashgame.com/2008/06/12/mike-matusow-he-was-a-donk/
Rodeo Song-Canadians
The I-95 Assholde Song
I tilted - Luigi Cappel
http://www.musicxray.com/xrays/96390
by the time I get done listening to I tilted I am usually calmed down.

bz54321 · Nov 30, 2012

omg - Mike matasow-he was a donk. AWESOME so funny

detourglr · Nov 30, 2012

bz54321 said:
omg - Mike matasow-he was a donk. AWESOME so funny

wait till you listen to it when you are on tilt becuase someone sucked out on you.

TakinOver · Nov 30, 2012

I watch a movie...Smoke a bowl of bomb bay. One hell of an idea came from the show 2 months 2 million. Where the made the tilt room. Where the break stuff and baseball bat watermellons and cantalopes. Dont have a room for this yet but soon i will. I will put a speed bag and huge punching bag to kick and sock. I need it bad. I go on tilt daily and not just in poker. Cant wait for that bag and I would like to hammer some melons too. Lol.

cdooley72 · Nov 30, 2012

You just have to have the mind set that having the best hand pre and post flop does not mean an auto win. People play bad hands and at times do hit them. Some time no matter how well you play no matter how much the play you made was correct you still might lose. This is poker there are no guarantees, AA gets cracked, straights can lose and a full house will beat your flush. And if the villain makes a bad call and hit his hand, just take a note on him for next time. Because that bad play will lose in the long run.

Just keep telling your self that it is going to happen no matter what you do. And after some time you will except it as part of the game. After a while you will find you self tilting less and less as you mind set changes to excepting it as part of the game.

This is how I have learned to deal with it and it has worked well. Now I might just belt out a " Are you ****ing kidding me" and thats it it is over and I move on and play my normal game.

theskillzdatklls · Nov 30, 2012

breaking beer bottles with my head

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