Vote to Bring Poker to Obama's Attention

zachvac · Jan 14, 2009

And we're #3

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riverboatrat · Jan 14, 2009

icemonkey9 said:
Yeah I voted down all the stupid legalize pot things, there were like 6 of em! I couldn't down-vote the kids-with-cancer one!

you realize that legalizing pot in any country would do wonders for their economy:

1. Tourism
2. Employment
3. Textile production
4. Lowering of taxes on gasoline (taxes would come from a whole new revenue source)
5. You would knock the bottom out of the black market and minimize crime
6. paper pulp made from hemp plant yeilds more per hectare than trees and is easier to replace.

the list is endless.

Jack Daniels · Jan 14, 2009

riverboatrat said:
you realize that legalizing pot in any country would do wonders for their economy:

1. Tourism
2. Employment
3. Textile production
4. Lowering of taxes on gasoline (taxes would come from a whole new revenue source)
5. You would knock the bottom out of the black market and minimize crime
6. paper pulp made from hemp plant yeilds more per hectare than trees and is easier to replace.
7. increased grocery store sales due to munchies
8. one less thing to look for in drug tests

FYP

riverboatrat · Jan 14, 2009

Jack Daniels said:
FYP

looool!

Lemlywinks · Jan 14, 2009

ChuckTs said:
But seriously I'm curious why you're against the legalization of marijuana. I hope since that's the case that you're not 'ok' with alcohol being legal?

I completely agree with ya there. I just don't understand why a country that could stand to make that much money from legalizing it not?

But to not rant, voted for poker. Cool site btw

Tygran · Jan 14, 2009

Cool site, thanks for the link!

Voted.

And agree with the marijuana thing. I don't smoke it, but ffs it's not worse than alcohol.

pdid5000 · Jan 14, 2009

got my vote in.

ChuckTs · Jan 14, 2009

Lemlywinks said:
I completely agree with ya there. I just don't understand why a country that could stand to make that much money from legalizing it not?

But to not rant, voted for poker. Cool site btw

Exactly. Not only are they are they missing out on making money from it, but they're actually spending money in the failure known as the 'war on drugs'.

KMC1828 · Jan 14, 2009

voted

upperdawg · Jan 14, 2009

online poker

:deal: yes i voted but i think the pres. has more 2 worry about than this..

zachvac · Jan 14, 2009

upperdawg said:
:deal: yes i voted but i think the pres. has more 2 worry about than this..

Which is why this is crucial. We already think (hope) he's on our side here, but he has other things he has as a higher priority. We need to let him know that we do care about it and hopefully he can make it a priority. Does anyone expect him to drop any economic stimulus planning to deal with poker? Of course not. But we want him to realize we do care and to fit it into the agenda somewhere.

icemonkey9 · Jan 14, 2009

upperdawg said:
:deal: yes i voted but i think the pres. has more 2 worry about than this..

The President's biggest concern is the economy. Bailouts and tax refunds are part of the economic plan for Obama but the money has to come from somewhere. Legalizing online games of skill gives an immediate revenue stream to draw from.

Who's to say that the US Gvt doesnt outline something like:

US online poker Gaming License Application - $25million
Yearly Online License Fee - $5 million
Tax 1% of all online player withdrawls

Now lets say you can apply that to 5 online poker sites. You're looking at a ton of potential money here. The negative would certainly be increased rake from the sites but I am hoping that lower rake becomes a competitive selling point, but I am getting ahead of myself. Anyways, online poker DOES have to do with what the Obama team immediately has to solve, it's a possible major contributor to funds needed to help the economy.

WVHillbilly · Jan 14, 2009

icemonkey9 said:
The President's biggest concern is the economy. Bailouts and tax refunds are part of the economic plan for Obama but the money has to come from somewhere. Legalizing online games of skill gives an immediate revenue stream to draw from.

Who's to say that the US Gvt doesnt outline something like:

US Online Poker Gaming License Application - $25million
Yearly Online License Fee - $5 million
Tax 1% of all online player withdrawals

Now lets say you can apply that to 5 online poker sites. You're looking at a ton of potential money here. The negative would certainly be increased rake from the sites but I am hoping that lower rake becomes a competitive selling point, but I am getting ahead of myself. Anyways, online poker DOES have to do with what the Obama team immediately has to solve, it's a possible major contributor to funds needed to help the economy.

I assume you mean this will be additional to the players normal income tax on winnings??

icemonkey9 · Jan 14, 2009

WVHillbilly said:
I assume you mean this will be additional to the players normal income tax on winnings??

heh ... my quote there is an example of something I could see happening that seems reasonable, it's not thought through for legislative purposes ... but to get to your question yes it could be a flat transaction tax. Players will have to report gambling winnings/losses as they normally do and lump it with their other transactions.

frisellan · Jan 14, 2009

upperdawg said:
:deal: yes i voted but i think the pres. has more 2 worry about than this..

This will give him more cash to solve those other problems

Great Thread!
I Just voted too.
( Join the PPA )

bazerias · Jan 14, 2009

Thanks for the heads up. intresting site, had never heard of it. thank you

Effexor · Jan 14, 2009

Voted.

And Bumped !

Lets get this to the top of the list !

zachvac · Jan 14, 2009

It was at #2, then the train and pot fans voted us down and them up. Just gotta keep getting friends/family to vote. As long as we're top 10 it'd be good.

Lemlywinks · Jan 14, 2009

ChuckTs said:
Exactly. Not only are they are they missing out on making money from it, but they're actually spending money in the failure known as the 'war on drugs'.

Sho enough. doesn't help that the people making those decisions are the same ones that were fed all of that bs about "14-100 marijuana users go criminally insane"

Anyone ever youtube that crazy ish, some propaganda video from what looks to be the 50's. It's no wonder marijuana gets a bad name with crap like that

Bottom line, if its good enough to be used as TREATMENT, how can it be illegal?

icemonkey9 · Jan 14, 2009

Lemlywinks said:
Bottom line, if its good enough to be used as TREATMENT, how can it be illegal?

Stop hijacking the thread and give your "who cares about their issue" and pro "vote for our issue" propaganda in this thread please

flyfish4 · Jan 14, 2009

i saw something from the poker players alliance in an email about it . i also think he has other concerns at the moment.

HousesoftheHoly78 · Jan 15, 2009

Voted thanks for bringing this to attention. Thanks to these forums we will make progress. As to the last post, Obama has a lot to do, but not only would this help, I believe it's something he has thought about and will change.

Jurn8 · Jan 15, 2009

Im from england , make me up a fake zip code I dont know how they are set out but I will vote if somebody could tell me

DogzBestFrnd · Jan 15, 2009

To the: He has other things to worry about... Yes, but he will have at least 4 years to adress all the issues he can. Why not try to make sure the ones you have an intrest in are mixed in there somewhere.

About the taxable income part. There arent any US based sites at the moment either, correct? It seems to me that if this is amended they will be able to tax US based sites as well as the players winnings. This means they gain revenue from your loseings as well.
Thats exactly why alot of states have allowed the building of casinos in the last few years. It isnt soley from the taxes they gain from the players, but the taxes the casino pays as well.
The goverment becomes The House.

Chris_TC · Jan 15, 2009

Jurn8 said:
Im from england , make me up a fake zip code I dont know how they are set out but I will vote if somebody could tell me

Just google it. Enter a city and "zip code". I'm from Santa Monica ldo

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