What do you think of female poker players?

rifflemao said:

How long does the list need to be in order to demonstrate capability?

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ILIKEFISH31 said:

I think one of them would be a good start...

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rifflemao said:

If your yardstick includes tournament winnings, here is Hendon Mob's list:

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking/137/

I think Jennifer Harmon makes most of her money in poker from cash games though, fwiw.

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ILIKEFISH31 said:

And neither of these players would even be considered in the top 25 of today's pros, let alone all time pros.

Not one woman would make the list of the top 50 poker pros of all time. Do you really think that's just due to sexism?

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rifflemao said:

I'm not arguing that women are keeping pace with men in the rankings. I'm arguing that they are demonstrably capable of playing great poker.

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rifflemao said:

Regarding intimidation, be aware that live poker can be just as intimidating for male players the first time. I've seen men literally shake in a $1/$2 game, and it's still easier for me to buyin to a $200 tourney than a $200 cash game.

As you might expect, there will be men at the table who suffer from both a superiority complex and bad manners. I saw that online last Sunday in the chatbox when a woman won the Carbon 25k dollar frenzy.

Just smile (to increase their tilt), and keep taking their chips.

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S3mper said:

I usually have the jitters the first 10 minutes I play actually lol.. After ten minutes of folding I get into a rhythm thou lol

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juiceeQ said:

If you've never played live, it can be intimidating your first few times, period, male or female. I think we all psych ourselves out at first, and think that everyone's going to be judging us. But think about it: are you wasting time judging people at all in life, and would you do so at a live table? Probably not, and anyone that does isn't worth a second thought in the first place. Let them judge, who cares what they think?

I'm a female player, and I have played live quite a bit (although it's been a long time since I last played live--life gets in the way, just don't have time ). I had the jitters at first, but I reminded myself that I knew what I was doing, and to play smart, and it would be fine. I sat out for a few hands before the big blind just to watch the table action, and made mental notes. Now, I very rarely have had instances of people treating me differently because I'm a girl. There have been some old codgers who would almost be offended if I raised them, others who think I'm easy to read (because I'm a woman, and I only play the nuts, of course--lol), and loudly claiming what they thought my hand was (they were almost always wrong). I just made mental notes, smiled, and made sure to exploit that to my advantage. On the other hand, I noticed that some guys would soft play against me because they "felt bad" and didn't want to "bully me". Although, to be fair, those times could have been because I'm friendly at the table, and like to chat with players, so it could have had nothing to do with the fact that I'm a woman. Ok, fair dink'um, I'll take advantage of that too!

But for the most part, nearly everyone treats you the same. There are a lot more younger players these days who aren't concerned with stereotypes and such, and will just as willingly take your chips as anyone else with no regrets (as it should be). So the best advice I can give is to just be alert, play your A-game, and make mental notes as you go. But most importantly, never let anyone intimidate you for any reason, especially just because you are a woman ("weaker sex" my ass! lol).

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suby_rafael said:

Oh yeah ?? Have you seen this woman play or heard of her ?? If you had i don't think you would make that comment ... :bandit:

Not only her just .. watch some of the plays women make at wsop and it will change your perspective. Do you remember last year 2 women made it to the top 15 of the main event ??

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ILIKEFISH31 said:

In all honesty I adore women and they're a big part of my life lol. That said, it's not just a cliche: Women are simply incapable of making decisions with anything other than their emotions.

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fishseller said:

I think there's no much difference between good male and good female poker players for me.
:handkiss:
Both leave me with empty pockets

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juiceeQ said:

The bolded part demonstrates to me that you don't "know" women as well as you think you do. Oh, and that's probably one of the most lol ridiculous statements I have ever read. And how sweet: you "adore" women--thanks for patronization. With that pat on the head, wink, and a pinch on the cheek, I feel so validated.

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ILIKEFISH31 said:

I really don't care how you feel. You're a total random out on the internet and I have no idea how good, or bad, you are as a person. How you feel is your own business.

The fact is that you even proved my point in your response. Women *have* to respond any time they feel someone has "disrespected them". You don't know when it's best to just let something go because you're incapable of thinking without letting your emotions completely overwhelm your decision making process.

As for this being the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard: You must be very, very young. People (including women) have been saying this about women pretty much forever.

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S3mper said:

Any one else smell a hypocrite?

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juiceeQ said:

The bolded part demonstrates to me that you don't "know" women as well as you think you do. Oh, and that's probably one of the most lol ridiculous statements I have ever read. And how sweet: you "adore" women--thanks for patronization. With that pat on the head, wink, and a pinch on the cheek, I feel so validated.

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punctual said:

funny how you let dummies get under your skin. I should use that against you at the poker table hehe

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ILIKEFISH31 said:

Sir, I can assure you that my IQ is probably at *least* double yours.

One woman came in the thread who could barely read or write and then this other idiot came in and got her panties in a twist, proving my point entirely.

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Princessa said:

I think female's greatest strength is in letting man think he running things but in reality it is the woman who pulls the man's strings. Maybe this has sumthing to do wit poker or maybe not but dat's how i feel bout it...

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punctual said:

That is precisely why men should guard themselves against falling in love....

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ILIKEFISH31 said:

Yes...because I'm sure "Princessa" has pulled a lot of men's "strings" over the years.

As a matter of fact, here's one of the guys she completely pulled the wool over:

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S3mper said:

Counting the seconds for when Fishes thing goes from "advanced member" to "Banned"

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S3mper said:

Counting the seconds for when Fishes thing goes from "advanced member" to "Banned"

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punctual said:

I think he's the kind of poster that got me to stop posting on forums in general. At some point one has had enough of nonsense...

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