Why aren't women more successful in poker?

Quasimodo · Nov 23, 2013

One thing I have noticed (in live action) a few years ago, were women chase flushes too often, even with low suited pockets. But online they seem to do so less. And I can't claim I'm not guilty of chasing my own damn self.

Jacki Burkhart · Nov 23, 2013

Quasimodo said:
One thing I have noticed (in live action) a few years ago, were women chase flushes too often, even with low suited pockets. But online they seem to do so less. And I can't claim I'm not guilty of chasing my own damn self.

I have noticed many weak players do this, but it does seem to be a tendency with some weak women players also. Is it at a higher rate than men flush chasers? I don't know...I can think of 2 women flush chasers that I play with regularly and I can think of about 10 men who do the same....so yeah....that is probably a bit high for the women compared to the total # of women in the field of regular players I play with....

thanks for the insight!

pgzn · Nov 23, 2013

They excel at candy crush. If they ever monetize that game the men will get spanked. Other than that, I have no idea.

blakewyte · Nov 24, 2013

I guess it's mainly because there are fewer women playing poker. It's considered more of a male game because of its social implications and history.

Most of the women I know who play poker are very tight players. They don't get a lot of value at times because of that image so the guys will just quickly fold even when she makes a min raise. But I have seen others who have a less tight image and make it.

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

This is to prove that women don't just wait for monster hands

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

UTG+1 (t2,115)
Hero (MP1) (t1,815)
MP2 (t2,985)
MP3 (t2,865)
CO (t1,320)
Button (t870)
SB (t1,740)
BB (t1,500)
UTG (t1,290)

Hero's M: 40.33

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9

, K

UTG calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t60, MP2 calls t60, 3 folds, SB calls t45, BB calls t30, UTG calls t30

Flop: (t300) 10

, 6

, 9

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks

Turn: (t300) 3

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t150, Hero calls t150, 1 fold, SB calls t150, BB calls t150

River: (t900) K

(4 players)
SB checks, BB bets t210, 1 fold, Hero calls t210, 1 fold

Total pot: t1,320

Results below:

BB had K

, 3

(two pair, Kings and threes).
Hero had 9

, K

(two pair, Kings and nines).
Outcome: Hero won t1,320

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

why did you just call the river sarah lol....whaaaaaaaat

piotrk88 · Nov 24, 2013

playing online poker is hard to determine whether a player I play a with woman, unless the Avatar, but I wanted to add that I was playing poker the same with women and men

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

AlfieAA said:
why did you just call the river sarah lol....whaaaaaaaat

Cos I was controlling the pot, he could have had KT, I did not like that 10 on the flop and the rodent could of had 78 and had the nuts on the flop, I didn't even have TPTK. K3o made me LOL

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

I do love this hand tho especially suited

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

MP2 (t3,449)
Hero (CO) (t1,690)
Button (t5,289)
SB (t4,290)
BB (t2,735)
UTG (t11,876)
UTG+1 (t2,133)
MP1 (t4,935)

Hero's M: 14.08

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, A

1 fold, UTG+1 calls t80, 2 folds, Hero raises to t160, Button raises to t240, 1 fold, BB calls t160, UTG+1 calls t160, Hero raises to t640, Button calls t400, BB calls t400, 1 fold

Flop: (t2,200) A

, Q

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1,050 (All-In), 2 folds

Total pot: t2,200

Results below:

Hero didn't show K

, A

.
Outcome: Hero won t2,200

Is this aggressive enough for ya Alfie

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

Oh and this one too

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

CO (t3,379)
Hero (Button) (t3,070)
SB (t5,004)
BB (t9,338)
UTG (t5,290)
UTG+1 (t865)
MP1 (t11,606)
MP2 (t1,743)
MP3 (t11,170)

Hero's M: 12.79

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t300, 4 folds, Hero raises to t800, SB raises to t4,994 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t555 (All-In), Hero calls t2,260 (All-In)

Flop: (t7,165) 6

, 10

, 7

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (t7,165) A

(3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t7,165) Q

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t7,165

Results below:

Hero had K

, K

(one pair, Kings).
SB had 2

, 2

(one pair, twos).
UTG+1 had 5

, 5

(one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero won t7,165

I'm on a roll

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

This will be the last hand I show as it is another monster hand and my first hand was to show we just don't wait for monster hands. I had to show this as my aces held lol

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB (t875)
BB (t17,973)
UTG (t732)
UTG+1 (t9,941)
MP1 (t1,830)
Hero (MP2) (t6,565)
MP3 (t4,950)
CO (t7,820)
Button (t1,825)

Hero's M: 27.35

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A

, A

3 folds, Hero raises to t200, 1 fold, CO calls t200, 2 folds, BB calls t100

Flop: (t740) K

, 6

, 4

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t400, 1 fold, BB calls t400

Turn: (t1,540) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t800, BB calls t800

River: (t3,140) 7

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t3,140, 1 fold

Total pot: t3,140

Results below:

Hero didn't show A

, A

(flush, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won t3,140

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

nice one sarah, on a roll, go girl

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

Look at this Alfie and this is bubble play

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG+1 (t25,962)
MP1 (t18,986)
MP2 (t26,059)
MP3 (t10,755)
Hero (CO) (t7,335)
Button (t6,063)
SB (t20,435)
BB (t4,754)
UTG (t21,692)

Hero's M: 6.11

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

, Q

UTG calls t500, 2 folds, MP2 calls t500, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1,000, 3 folds, UTG calls t500, MP2 calls t500

Flop: (t4,200) 8

, 6

, J

(3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t2,000, 1 fold, MP2 calls t2,000

Turn: (t8,200) 2

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: (t8,200) J

(2 players)
MP2 bets t8,200, Hero calls t4,285 (All-In)

Total pot: t16,770

Results below:

MP2 had K

, 6

(two pair, Jacks and sixes).
Hero had J

, Q

(three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won t16,770

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

And this one straight after :O

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button (t29,712)
SB (t21,486)
BB (t14,824)
UTG (t10,555)
Hero (UTG+1) (t16,620)
MP1 (t5,863)
MP2 (t19,985)
MP3 (t3,804)
CO (t19,192)

Hero's M: 13.85

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 10

, 10

UTG calls t500, Hero raises to t1,000, 3 folds, CO calls t1,000, 2 folds, BB calls t500, UTG calls t500

Flop: (t4,700) 10

, 6

, 10

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t2,000, 3 folds

Total pot: t4,700

Results below:

Hero didn't show 10

, 10

.
Outcome: Hero won t4,700

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

EvertonGirl said:
Look at this Alfie and this is bubble play

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG+1 (t25,962)
MP1 (t18,986)
MP2 (t26,059)
MP3 (t10,755)
Hero (CO) (t7,335)
Button (t6,063)
SB (t20,435)
BB (t4,754)
UTG (t21,692)

Hero's M: 6.11

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

, Q

UTG calls t500, 2 folds, MP2 calls t500, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1,000, 3 folds, UTG calls t500, MP2 calls t500

Flop: (t4,200) 8

, 6

, J

(3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t2,000, 1 fold, MP2 calls t2,000

Turn: (t8,200) 2

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: (t8,200) J

(2 players)
MP2 bets t8,200, Hero calls t4,285 (All-In)

Total pot: t16,770

Results below:

MP2 had K

, 6

(two pair, Jacks and sixes).
Hero had J

, Q

(three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won t16,770

bet turn, dont let flush draws get there for cheap/nothing....always bet turn

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

EvertonGirl said:
And this one straight after :O

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button (t29,712)
SB (t21,486)
BB (t14,824)
UTG (t10,555)
Hero (UTG+1) (t16,620)
MP1 (t5,863)
MP2 (t19,985)
MP3 (t3,804)
CO (t19,192)

Hero's M: 13.85

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 10

, 10

UTG calls t500, Hero raises to t1,000, 3 folds, CO calls t1,000, 2 folds, BB calls t500, UTG calls t500

Flop: (t4,700) 10

, 6

, 10

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t2,000, 3 folds

Total pot: t4,700

Results below:

Hero didn't show 10

, 10

.
Outcome: Hero won t4,700

check flop, let them catch up...hope a a or k hits then station the turn and donk the river....

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

AlfieAA said:
bet turn, dont let flush draws get there for cheap/nothing....always bet turn

Yea I understand that, I could of got crushed river with the hearts. Glad he only had 1 tho

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

AlfieAA said:
check flop, let them catch up...hope a a or k hits then station the turn and donk the river....

Yea I was thinking that after I put half the pot in, but it was too late then. I thought the guy to my right was gonna raise or call me, he took his time with his decision I had me fingers crossed he would raise

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

doesnt really matter if he had 1 heart or 2 hearts sarah lol, you need to give them the wrong odds to chase...coz if he rolled over 2 hearts after letting him/her see the extra card for free then you've only got yourself to blame when you make the hero call....dont cross your fingers and hope he doesnt have this or that...use math and bet accordingly.

MasterOfDisaster · Nov 24, 2013

I believe woman can be very succesfull ON the pokertable

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

EvertonGirl said:
Yea I was thinking that after I put half the pot in, but it was too late then. I thought the guy to my right was gonna raise or call me, he took his time with his decision I had me fingers crossed he would raise

yeah when you have the nuts like that you need to check/call ...only bet like that if you have a good hand and protecting against draws etc....next time check lol and get value on later streets

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

AlfieAA said:
yeah when you have the nuts like that you need to check/call ...only bet like that if you have a good hand and protecting against draws etc....next time check lol and get value on later streets

I know I kicked myself when I didn't check.

Here's now my last HH in this thread.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 800/1,600 Blinds 150 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB (t67,776)
BB (t48,810)
UTG (t106,283)
Hero (UTG+1) (t12,959)
MP1 (t30,538)
MP2 (t92,985)
CO (t27,296)
Button (t93,701)

Hero's M: 3.60

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K

, K

1 fold, Hero raises to t3,200, MP1 calls t3,200, 1 fold, CO raises to t27,146 (All-In), 3 folds, Hero calls t9,609 (All-In), 1 fold

Flop: (t32,418) Q

, 8

, Q

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t32,418) 7

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t32,418) Q

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t32,418

Results below:

Hero had K

, K

(full house, Queens over Kings).
CO had A

, A

(full house, Queens over Aces).
Outcome: CO won t32,418

Out before the bubble

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

unlucky in that hand....could maybe have found a fold if you had stats on the AA guy....do you still run a hud?

EvertonGirl · Nov 24, 2013

AlfieAA said:
doesnt really matter if he had 1 heart or 2 hearts sarah lol, you need to give them the wrong odds to chase...coz if he rolled over 2 hearts after letting him/her see the extra card for free then you've only got yourself to blame when you make the hero call....dont cross your fingers and hope he doesnt have this or that...use math and bet accordingly.

The crossed fingers were for if he raised not what he was holding, but I understand I should of bet on the turn to give him odds not to chase.

AlfieAA · Nov 24, 2013

cut down on the check button by 50% sarah and be aggressive .......unless you flop quads then ...........................CHECK....lol....i hope you've learned something today and if i ever see you misplaying a hand again then im going to bollock you.....be warned

and if you are in a pot with 4 or more players and are out of position you can check too if you didnt hit the board...but apart from things like that the check button should be used sparingly imo

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