Are You Afraid of Bad Beats?

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I see that there are still many beginning players are afraid to pay an all in with KK or AA for being afraid of losing with these hands.
This should never happen, regardless of how many players are all in.
Math is on your side, and for you who are starting now and still do not know, Poker is math and analysis of people, nothing more.


Remember, even in FT, bubble or the first leg of a high roller tournament, you never drop AA or KK. If you have any doubts, watch the recent hand between Tom Dwan, Antonio Esfandiari and Daniel Negreanu. It perfectly illustrates what must be done.
 
I totally agree hands as strong as AA or KK should never throw in an all-in preflop situation ... I say this because the situation can change if we are in a post-flop spot and the community cards are not in our Please ... and eventually a villain going all-in could be considered folding ...!
 
I do not say fear, but I get angry when we are in front, we have a 90% chance to win the game, and the opponent hits something impossible that only has a 10% chance of happening and he does .. that is hard to swallow, now afraid to get in hand with AA, KK, and others of the same level. Not that it is not afraid ... if we are afraid we should not play poker ... poker does not match with fear.
 
Bad beat and AA/KK preflop are two different things.
If on the bubble, three people go all-in, very likely I'll fold KK. If chiplead I might consider call. As said: it's math&people; just try to reach your goal.
 
I have is anger
because it always comes at crucial moments of the tournament
 
I'm looking at my stats, on PS I've won 82.5% with AA, but my profit with these hands is -1.07$(-116.5Bb/100)...if the only thing I win with AA are the blinds, and when somebody calls me with junk I donate my stack,I think I'm entitled to be afraid of bad beats...On the other hand, on 888 I have 91.59% hands won with AA and +377.96 profit with them(+932.35 BB/100)...so guess where I'm playing now...yes, not at BadbeatStars
 
bako_alx said:
I'm looking at my stats, on PS I've won 82.5% with AA, but my profit with these hands is -1.07$(-116.5Bb/100)...if the only thing I win with AA are the blinds, and when somebody calls me with junk I donate my stack,I think I'm entitled to be afraid of bad beats...On the other hand, on 888 I have 91.59% hands won with AA and +377.96 profit with them(+932.35 BB/100)...so guess where I'm playing now...yes, not at BadbeatStars
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if so consistent: consider playing bad beat jackpots at ps, that's a guaranteed win.
 
Thanks for the tip, I'll do that when I'll return to JokerStars, not too soon though...
 
Dailon Arroyo Blandon said:
I totally agree hands as strong as AA or KK should never throw in an all-in preflop situation ... I say this because the situation can change if we are in a post-flop spot and the community cards are not in our Please ... and eventually a villain going all-in could be considered folding ...!
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Of course, pos-flop does not only involve the strength of your hand. You have to analyze various other things.
But pre flop in all in situation you should never drop AA or KK.
 
sryulaw said:
I do not say fear, but I get angry when we are in front, we have a 90% chance to win the game, and the opponent hits something impossible that only has a 10% chance of happening and he does .. that is hard to swallow, now afraid to get in hand with AA, KK, and others of the same level. Not that it is not afraid ... if we are afraid we should not play poker ... poker does not match with fear.
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It's a bit confusing, but I see a lot of people scared to pay for what they think is "unlucky" or because they think it's just a pair and should not pay an all in with these hands. So even being strange, some people are afraid to pay.
 
I for one will not fold pocket aces preflop but pocket kings is another story. I try to play in the wsop circuit events every year. One year I had such a bad run in seven straight events, I got busted out when having either pocket aces or pocket kings. In all such hands I had been playing at the same table for over six hours and they were all, allin preflop hands. The goal in each event is to cash. Had I folded pocket kings in a few events, I would have cashed. I did fold pocket queens preflop and it was the right read. The guy had pocket kings and I wouldn't have hit a queen. I have folded pocket kings a few times and I went with my gut instinct and read on player. I was right every time the guy had pocket aces and I wouldn't have hit.
 
8bod8 said:
Bad beat and AA/KK preflop are two different things.
If on the bubble, three people go all-in, very likely I'll fold KK. If chiplead I might consider call. As said: it's math&people; just try to reach your goal.
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n an all in triple, you with KK have 45% and considering a Tight profile the villains get villain1 33% and villain2 22%


That's pre flop. Do you really think you should not pay?
Sorry, math is on your side.
 
escurimX said:
I have is anger
because it always comes at crucial moments of the tournament
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Do not be angry, it's just a game. Have self-control and study. I'm sure the results will appear
 
DiegoRamos said:
I see that there are still many beginning players are afraid to pay an all in with KK or AA for being afraid of losing with these hands.
This should never happen, regardless of how many players are all in.
Math is on your side, and for you who are starting now and still do not know, Poker is math and analysis of people, nothing more.


Remember, even in FT, bubble or the first leg of a high roller tournament, you never drop AA or KK. If you have any doubts, watch the recent hand between Tom Dwan, Antonio Esfandiari and Daniel Negreanu. It perfectly illustrates what must be done.
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the badbets are hard lessons
 
bako_alx said:
I'm looking at my stats, on PS I've won 82.5% with AA, but my profit with these hands is -1.07$(-116.5Bb/100)...if the only thing I win with AA are the blinds, and when somebody calls me with junk I donate my stack,I think I'm entitled to be afraid of bad beats...On the other hand, on 888 I have 91.59% hands won with AA and +377.96 profit with them(+932.35 BB/100)...so guess where I'm playing now...yes, not at BadbeatStars
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I see many people blaming the rooms for their results. In psychology, this is called guilt transfer.
I am approaching in the post the not fold in hands like AA or KK preflop.
From the moment you are required to play the pos, you have to analyze other factors, Range of the villain, Position, default bet, tell, probability ... so you can not judge by having AA or KK. This is level 0 of metagame.
 
emk4976 said:
I for one will not fold pocket aces preflop but pocket kings is another story. I try to play in the WSOP circuit events every year. One year I had such a bad run in seven straight events, I got busted out when having either pocket aces or pocket kings. In all such hands I had been playing at the same table for over six hours and they were all, allin preflop hands. The goal in each event is to cash. Had I folded pocket kings in a few events, I would have cashed. I did fold pocket queens preflop and it was the right read. The guy had pocket kings and I wouldn't have hit a queen. I have folded pocket kings a few times and I went with my gut instinct and read on player. I was right every time the guy had pocket aces and I wouldn't have hit.
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If you have enough reading to ask without doubts that he has AA and you KK I congratulate you. But know that in only 0.2% the village will have AA while you have KK.
Already in relation to the QQ I particulamente not paid All in pre. Only short stack.
 
I am not Afraid of a "Bad Beat", althogh I dont like them, they are suppose to be part of the varianace that is part of any game.
Also some ones bad beat, migth someone elses unexpected, Nice win! :listen:



 
I'm not scared, but I just do not like when I get a bad beat ... And lately I often get them ...🙁
 
Milosika1991 said:
I'm not scared, but I just do not like when I get a bad beat ... And lately I often get them ...🙁
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Bad Beat is a bit of a bad luck.
If you got caught up in it, you do not have to get mad or anything.
It just proves that you did everything right and in the end the villain had a bit of luck.
But in the long run, you'll earn 70% of the time you play with it at a minimum.
Then you have nothing left but to control the anger, and to balance to the next hand.
 
When you play poker, there is no place for emotions. You have to be always stay confident and calm during the game even after bad beats. I would say your emotions are your first enemy. So no matter what happens - keep your mind clean.
 
Dailon Arroyo Blandon said:
I totally agree hands as strong as AA or KK should never throw in an all-in preflop situation
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Well, I guess some people are disagree. 🙂 I have a feeling like someone didn't approve my all-in with KK in previous league game.
 
While I will almost always go all-in pre-flop w/ AA, there are definitely situations when I would consider not playing them. I know the odds are strongly in their favour. But I've seen them lose so often, that it's not always worth risking my tournament life if I still have a very healthy stack.

As others have stated, KK (although theoretically the 2nd best starting hand) is a much different hand than AA.
 
In the back of my mind, yes, always afraid of a bad beat. But you can’t let this influence how you play, coolers happen, but in the long term you are the one profiting if you play it right.
 
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